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Hi
Can anyone give me pointers for tying deer hair mice? Spinning and stacking are OK but I seem to remember when watching Chris Helm that he stacks on top of a previous layer, presumably to get the density and size. Is my memory correct? B Bear |
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![]() "bbear" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... Hi Can anyone give me pointers for tying deer hair mice? Spinning and stacking are OK but I seem to remember when watching Chris Helm that he stacks on top of a previous layer, presumably to get the density and size. Is my memory correct? B Bear Most unlikely. It is more or less impossible to spin deer hair on anything other than a bare shank, or a thread base. TL MC |
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"bbear" wrote in
: I seem to remember when watching Chris Helm that he stacks on top of a previous layer, presumably to get the density and size. Layered flaring is often used to achieve colour blocks but would it increase density ??? Quite Likely ... Steve (who's only does it for colour since the first (and last) mouse was sceamed at.) |
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Yeh can understand the cute bit. Don't think I could subject the poor thing
to being eaten by a fish either. Cheers all B Bear "Stephen Welsh" wrote in message . 1.4... "bbear" wrote in : I seem to remember when watching Chris Helm that he stacks on top of a previous layer, presumably to get the density and size. Layered flaring is often used to achieve colour blocks but would it increase density ??? Quite Likely ... Steve (who's only does it for colour since the first (and last) mouse was sceamed at.) |
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A.K. Best has a comment on it in one of his books--I don't have them
around so I don't remember which one exactly. but I do remembe his point. He showed a boughten mouse that was all trim and neat, with a smother round stomach, pointed faice, etc. He related a fishing experience with them (on a lake--not moving water) and why they didn't work and then showed his version of a mouse fly. The main things he pointed out: --Pointed face vs flat face: no live mice have flat faces, but since the idea is to create a wake, the flat face helps displace water a little more abruptly, and the pointed face also had a tendancy to slip under the surface ( which was bad, apparently). --Big, bushy body: the rounded body and neat sides of the bought mouse were unrealistic. Mice are kind of flat on the bottom, and wild ones have longer hair that is almost shaggy, so don't make the bottom out of clipped ends. Maybe clip out a strip, but leave some hair tips down like hair on the sides of a mouse. And don't round off the butt/tail of the fly either. Mice don't have neat, round ends--again, kind of squarish. I think the whitlock mouse looks pretty good, IMO. Maybe that pattern w/ a flat face/nose would be the ticket. I've tied a couple (though not w/ flat faces), but I've never got around to fishing them...maybe that should be a goal this year--a fishing scenario in which to use mouse patterns... ; -) good luck w/ all that spinning, TyKo "B.Bear" wrote in message ... Yeh can understand the cute bit. Don't think I could subject the poor thing to being eaten by a fish either. Cheers all B Bear "Stephen Welsh" wrote in message . 1.4... "bbear" wrote in : I seem to remember when watching Chris Helm that he stacks on top of a previous layer, presumably to get the density and size. Layered flaring is often used to achieve colour blocks but would it increase density ??? Quite Likely ... Steve (who's only does it for colour since the first (and last) mouse was sceamed at.) |
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Use Gudebroad GX2 or Kevlar for the thread, May I suggest ultra-suede for
the tail and ears instead of leather. and on your hook take a small course hone and run down the shank to roughen it. Do not wrap the hook shank with thread base. Stack on the rear top and bottom them spin from that point on you want to add a specific color. Use course side and belly hair not the fine stuff. Hope this helps "bbear" wrote in message ... Hi Can anyone give me pointers for tying deer hair mice? Spinning and stacking are OK but I seem to remember when watching Chris Helm that he stacks on top of a previous layer, presumably to get the density and size. Is my memory correct? B Bear |
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