Dandruff flies

Okay, big hole in my fly box. Realized that all my flies are designed
for Eastern streams. BFF.... Big Friggen Flies. When you tie a
wiggle nymph with two size 8s, you got big flies. However, Western
streams require something a bit finer. Size 18-26 with an occasional
#32 are the primary flies used (though a size 14 pheasant tail will
take a serious fish, just don't tell the locals 'cause they'll tell
you it won't work).
Working with Ed Engle's book "Tying Small Flies." I also have
"Fishing Small Flies." Need to fill up a box with the micro flies
before the end of the Winter.
So, the question is, what is your favorite dandruff fly and where do
you use it?
Frank Reid

On Nov 20, 8:40*pm, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:
Okay, big hole in my fly box. *Realized that all my flies are designed
for Eastern streams. *BFF.... Big Friggen Flies. *When you tie a
wiggle nymph with two size 8s, you got big flies. *However, Western
streams require something a bit finer. *Size 18-26 with an occasional
#32 are the primary flies used (though a size 14 pheasant tail will
take a serious fish, just don't tell the locals 'cause they'll tell
you it won't work).
Working with Ed Engle's book "Tying Small Flies." *I also have
"Fishing Small Flies." *Need to fill up a box with the micro flies
before the end of the Winter.
So, the question is, what is your favorite dandruff fly and where do
you use it?
Frank Reid

Size 20-24 bead head zebra nymph in any good tail water. Often good
for Browns of 20"+. Easy to tie despite the small size - thread body
with a wisp of dubbing behind the tiny bead. As for dries - rarely use
them in those sizes, as I can no longer see them on the water.

On 2010-11-20 23:40:49 -0500, Frank Reid � 2010 said:

Okay, big hole in my fly box. Realized that all my flies are designed
for Eastern streams. BFF.... Big Friggen Flies. When you tie a
wiggle nymph with two size 8s, you got big flies. However, Western
streams require something a bit finer. Size 18-26 with an occasional
#32 are the primary flies used (though a size 14 pheasant tail will
take a serious fish, just don't tell the locals 'cause they'll tell
you it won't work).
Working with Ed Engle's book "Tying Small Flies." I also have
"Fishing Small Flies." Need to fill up a box with the micro flies
before the end of the Winter.
So, the question is, what is your favorite dandruff fly and where do
you use it?
Frank Reid

Sparkle Caddis, soft hackle nymph, size 20 - 24. Dead drift it in
certain runs on the Rapid and it will catch brookies up to 6 pounds.
Landing them, however, is tougher. It also can be tied as a soft
hackle PT. It is a killer.

dave

On 11/20/2010 11:40 PM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:
Okay, big hole in my fly box. Realized that all my flies are designed
for Eastern streams.

You fish Eastern streams in the early season. We use a lot of small
stuff later on in the year.

So, the question is, what is your favorite dandruff fly and where do
you use it?


I have to give you 4.....sorry.

1.Small Mayflies--who ranges of emerger,dun and spinners for two small
bugs: Tricos, and Pseudocleons(very small pale olives).These run #22-26
and can come into use on flatter water on most decent streams here.

2.Adams midges--no wings, just tail,body and hackle. I carry these in
#20-26, and use them in PA limestone creeks from June-October.

3.Griffith Gnats--the perfect mating midge. Most PA streams have midge
hatches from Sept-March. These work well in #20-26. Look for more
aggressive rises, generally in smooth glides, or the top of pools.

4.Thread midges--nothing but a thread body, slight bulge at head, and a
tiny clump of white CDC to spot them on the water. Good fly for fussier
feeders on individual insects. Good on the nastiest small limestoners.

Tom

On Nov 21, 9:27*am, Tom Littleton wrote:
On 11/20/2010 11:40 PM, Frank Reid 2010 wrote:

Okay, big hole in my fly box. *Realized that all my flies are designed
for Eastern streams.

You fish Eastern streams in the early season. We use a lot of small
stuff later on in the year.

So, the question is, what is your favorite dandruff fly and where do
you use it?

I have to give you 4.....sorry.

1.Small Mayflies--who ranges of emerger,dun and spinners for two small
bugs: Tricos, and Pseudocleons(very small pale olives).These run #22-26
and can come into use on flatter water on most decent streams here.

2.Adams midges--no wings, just tail,body and hackle. I carry these in
#20-26, and use them in PA limestone creeks from June-October.

3.Griffith Gnats--the perfect mating midge. Most PA streams have midge
hatches from Sept-March. These work well in #20-26. Look for more
aggressive rises, generally in smooth glides, or the top of pools.

4.Thread midges--nothing but a thread body, slight bulge at head, and a
tiny clump of white CDC to spot them on the water. Good fly for fussier
feeders on individual insects. Good on the nastiest small limestoners.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom

What Tom said. Also, if you see "sipping" rises and can't see what
they're taking, try your smallest ( mine is #30 on a Tiemco 2488 hook)
Griffith's Gnat. The tiny gnats double as a generic emerger.

On Nov 20, 10:40*pm, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:
Okay, big hole in my fly box. *Realized that all my flies are designed
for Eastern streams. *BFF.... Big Friggen Flies. *When you tie a
wiggle nymph with two size 8s, you got big flies. *However, Western
streams require something a bit finer. *Size 18-26 with an occasional
#32 are the primary flies used (though a size 14 pheasant tail will
take a serious fish, just don't tell the locals 'cause they'll tell
you it won't work).
Working with Ed Engle's book "Tying Small Flies." *I also have
"Fishing Small Flies." *Need to fill up a box with the micro flies
before the end of the Winter.
So, the question is, what is your favorite dandruff fly and where do
you use it?
Frank Reid

Okay, just finding out that my standard fly box (scientific anglers),
doesn't hold these flies well.
What does everyone use to hold these flies (without spending $50 on a
flybox)?
Frank Reid

You guys must be kidding A SIZE30 !!!!! a number9 tippett ?
Reminds me of the story of the guy from texas showing the clerk in
and English fly shop a small Texas size fly he used a 24#
The clerk put his hand under table and came out empty and opened it
toward the guy from texas --" These are the size 36# drys most of my
friends are using !

Had an 80th birthday last week and trying to plan a way to sell my 500
plus brand new professional tied size 16# and below assortment of
flies. Thought I had worked out a big deal buying direct from a
wholesaler !
Hell caught most of my fish on a stimulator or a foam yellow humpy.
Have a good Thansgiving
Joe the Elder

On Nov 21, 2:51*pm, george9219 wrote:
On Nov 21, 9:27*am, Tom Littleton wrote:





On 11/20/2010 11:40 PM, Frank Reid 2010 wrote:

Okay, big hole in my fly box. *Realized that all my flies are designed
for Eastern streams.

You fish Eastern streams in the early season. We use a lot of small
stuff later on in the year.

So, the question is, what is your favorite dandruff fly and where do
you use it?

I have to give you 4.....sorry.

1.Small Mayflies--who ranges of emerger,dun and spinners for two small
bugs: Tricos, and Pseudocleons(very small pale olives).These run #22-26
and can come into use on flatter water on most decent streams here.

2.Adams midges--no wings, just tail,body and hackle. I carry these in
#20-26, and use them in PA limestone creeks from June-October.

3.Griffith Gnats--the perfect mating midge. Most PA streams have midge
hatches from Sept-March. These work well in #20-26. Look for more
aggressive rises, generally in smooth glides, or the top of pools.

4.Thread midges--nothing but a thread body, slight bulge at head, and a
tiny clump of white CDC to spot them on the water. Good fly for fussier
feeders on individual insects. Good on the nastiest small limestoners.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom

What Tom said. Also, if you see "sipping" rises and can't see what
they're taking, try your smallest ( mine is #30 on a Tiemco 2488 hook)
Griffith's Gnat. The tiny gnats double as a generic emerger.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Side note: Ive always assumed that the Griffit's Knat was an imitation
of a CLUSTER of hatching midges? Not an individual insect. Any
insights on this/

Dave

On Nov 21, 8:36*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Nov 21, 2:51*pm, george9219 wrote:





On Nov 21, 9:27*am, Tom Littleton wrote:

On 11/20/2010 11:40 PM, Frank Reid 2010 wrote:

Okay, big hole in my fly box. *Realized that all my flies are designed
for Eastern streams.

You fish Eastern streams in the early season. We use a lot of small
stuff later on in the year.

So, the question is, what is your favorite dandruff fly and where do
you use it?

I have to give you 4.....sorry.

1.Small Mayflies--who ranges of emerger,dun and spinners for two small
bugs: Tricos, and Pseudocleons(very small pale olives).These run #22-26
and can come into use on flatter water on most decent streams here.

2.Adams midges--no wings, just tail,body and hackle. I carry these in
#20-26, and use them in PA limestone creeks from June-October.

3.Griffith Gnats--the perfect mating midge. Most PA streams have midge
hatches from Sept-March. These work well in #20-26. Look for more
aggressive rises, generally in smooth glides, or the top of pools.

4.Thread midges--nothing but a thread body, slight bulge at head, and a
tiny clump of white CDC to spot them on the water. Good fly for fussier
feeders on individual insects. Good on the nastiest small limestoners..

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom

What Tom said. Also, if you see "sipping" rises and can't see what
they're taking, try your smallest ( mine is #30 on a Tiemco 2488 hook)
Griffith's Gnat. The tiny gnats double as a generic emerger.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Side note: Ive always assumed that the Griffit's Knat was an imitation
of a CLUSTER of hatching midges? Not an individual insect. Any
insights on this/

Dave

A cluster, yes, according to the conventional wisdom as I've received
it. But not so much hatching as copulating, or trying to, anyway, I
think. And thus quite possibly the origin of a common (if somewhat
indelicate) term that describes, quite literally, what they are doing,
and figuratively any group effort gone awry.*

Wolfgang
* like roff, for example.

On Nov 21, 2:51*pm, george9219 wrote:


What Tom said. Also, if you see "sipping" rises and can't see what
they're taking, try your smallest ( mine is #30 on a Tiemco 2488 hook)
Griffith's Gnat. The tiny gnats double as a generic emerger.

I'm curious as to your source of Grizzly Hackle for a size 30 hook.
Heck even the peacock herl body called for on a Griffith's Gnat would
likely fill the gap between shank and point.