Return of a Classic

"Feather-Craft has commissioned SAGE to build an exclusive,
limited run of their legendary 4711 LL (Light Line) fly rods.
This 7'11" 4-weight, 2- piece medium-fast action fly rod
disappeared almost a decade ago, but is still commonly
discussed and admired amongst groups of fly rod aficionados.
Many believe, including me, that this is the finest small stream
4-weight fly rod ever made. Don Green's masterpiece (Founder of
Sage Rod Company). I have 11 rods unspoken for at the time of
this writing. Cost is $550. Delivery is April, 2009. $100 deposit
required. Balance due on delivery. Sold on a first come basis...."

http://tinyurl.com/d3noc6

Usual disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Feathercraft other
than as a satisfied customer.

The LL series was/is indeed legendary. I have 490-4 LL and it's
my all time favorite 4 wt. Why Sage discontinued the LL I'll
never know, it was/is the sweetest casting Sage I've ever used.
Anyway here's a rare opportunity to get a brand new one.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:05:19 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

"Feather-Craft has commissioned SAGE to build an exclusive,
limited run of their legendary 4711 LL (Light Line) fly rods.
This 7'11" 4-weight, 2- piece medium-fast action fly rod
disappeared almost a decade ago, but is still commonly
discussed and admired amongst groups of fly rod aficionados.
Many believe, including me, that this is the finest small stream
4-weight fly rod ever made. Don Green's masterpiece (Founder of
Sage Rod Company). I have 11 rods unspoken for at the time of
this writing. Cost is $550. Delivery is April, 2009. $100 deposit
required. Balance due on delivery. Sold on a first come basis...."

http://tinyurl.com/d3noc6

Usual disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Feathercraft other
than as a satisfied customer.

The LL series was/is indeed legendary. I have 490-4 LL and it's
my all time favorite 4 wt. Why Sage discontinued the LL I'll
never know, it was/is the sweetest casting Sage I've ever used.
Anyway here's a rare opportunity to get a brand new one.

Um, will the US Treasury be commissioning them to produce a exclusive limited
run of Susan B. Anthony dollar coins that will be available for a mere 3
dollars, too...?

All kidding aside, I, too, liked and still like the LL series, but let's not get
too far out of the bounds of reality here. They are nice - I'd allow even very
nice - rods and all, but considering originals are fairly readily available for
about half (or less) of that, I'm not sure what the big deal is about these. I
guess if you just _HAVE_ to get one by the end of April, fine, but if I were
simply thinking "one of those might be nice to have," I'd keep my eyes out and
pick one up for a lot less money.

My first thought was that Sage had a relative few extras still rattling around
the shop for some reason, and someone figured out that there were two choices -
sell 'em cheap as a close-out OR make 'em seem like a bargain at any price and
get tip-top dollar, pardon the sorta-pun, as long as the suckers kept coming...

For whatever reason, it reminds me of a story - what's that old short story
about the "Spinoza" rods at the antiques auction...?

TC,
R

wrote:
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:05:19 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

"Feather-Craft has commissioned SAGE to build an exclusive,
limited run of their legendary 4711 LL (Light Line) fly rods.
This 7'11" 4-weight, 2- piece medium-fast action fly rod
disappeared almost a decade ago, but is still commonly
discussed and admired amongst groups of fly rod aficionados.
Many believe, including me, that this is the finest small stream
4-weight fly rod ever made. Don Green's masterpiece (Founder of
Sage Rod Company). I have 11 rods unspoken for at the time of
this writing. Cost is $550. Delivery is April, 2009. $100 deposit
required. Balance due on delivery. Sold on a first come basis...."

http://tinyurl.com/d3noc6

Usual disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Feathercraft other
than as a satisfied customer.

The LL series was/is indeed legendary. I have 490-4 LL and it's
my all time favorite 4 wt. Why Sage discontinued the LL I'll
never know, it was/is the sweetest casting Sage I've ever used.
Anyway here's a rare opportunity to get a brand new one.

Um, will the US Treasury be commissioning them to produce a exclusive limited
run of Susan B. Anthony dollar coins that will be available for a mere 3
dollars, too...?

All kidding aside, I, too, liked and still like the LL series, but let's not get
too far out of the bounds of reality here. They are nice - I'd allow even very
nice - rods and all, but considering originals are fairly readily available for
about half (or less) of that, I'm not sure what the big deal is about these. I
guess if you just _HAVE_ to get one by the end of April, fine, but if I were
simply thinking "one of those might be nice to have," I'd keep my eyes out and
pick one up for a lot less money.

I don't do much eBay shopping so I really don't know how often
Sage LLs show up or what they go for when they do. I know I sure
as hell didn't pay $550 for my four piece LL way back when but I
don't remember exactly what it cost.

I don't endorse this as a good deal, I'm just posting the info.
I'll say this though, I will pay a substantial premium for the
warranty that comes with a new rod. In other words if I can buy
the same rod on eBay for $150 and new for $250 I'll buy the new
one every time.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:44:41 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:05:19 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

"Feather-Craft has commissioned SAGE to build an exclusive,
limited run of their legendary 4711 LL (Light Line) fly rods.
This 7'11" 4-weight, 2- piece medium-fast action fly rod
disappeared almost a decade ago, but is still commonly
discussed and admired amongst groups of fly rod aficionados.
Many believe, including me, that this is the finest small stream
4-weight fly rod ever made. Don Green's masterpiece (Founder of
Sage Rod Company). I have 11 rods unspoken for at the time of
this writing. Cost is $550. Delivery is April, 2009. $100 deposit
required. Balance due on delivery. Sold on a first come basis...."

http://tinyurl.com/d3noc6

Usual disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Feathercraft other
than as a satisfied customer.

The LL series was/is indeed legendary. I have 490-4 LL and it's
my all time favorite 4 wt. Why Sage discontinued the LL I'll
never know, it was/is the sweetest casting Sage I've ever used.
Anyway here's a rare opportunity to get a brand new one.

Um, will the US Treasury be commissioning them to produce a exclusive limited
run of Susan B. Anthony dollar coins that will be available for a mere 3
dollars, too...?

All kidding aside, I, too, liked and still like the LL series, but let's not get
too far out of the bounds of reality here. They are nice - I'd allow even very
nice - rods and all, but considering originals are fairly readily available for
about half (or less) of that, I'm not sure what the big deal is about these. I
guess if you just _HAVE_ to get one by the end of April, fine, but if I were
simply thinking "one of those might be nice to have," I'd keep my eyes out and
pick one up for a lot less money.

I don't do much eBay shopping so I really don't know how often
Sage LLs show up or what they go for when they do. I know I sure
as hell didn't pay $550 for my four piece LL way back when but I
don't remember exactly what it cost.

Same here. I don't recall any LL being that much (I have no idea what the
"MSRP" might have been, I'm speaking of "real-world," actual prices). And FWIW,
I did a quick eBay search and found several LLs - all sold under $400USD, and
most are in the $250-ish range, and there are several available for bidding now
(none are this exact rod, but it only covers a coupla-three weeks back and
current auctions) and I've seen a fair number of various LLs for sale at a
variety of places, like the various catalogs from dealers, etc. in that same
general range.

I don't endorse this as a good deal,

I didn't think, or mean to imply, that you were.

I'm just posting the info.

I'll say this though, I will pay a substantial premium for the
warranty that comes with a new rod. In other words if I can buy
the same rod on eBay for $150 and new for $250 I'll buy the new
one every time.

Your mileage obviously varies on that point. I don't see the point of paying
double, or nearly so, merely for a warranty, but I don't see it as "wrong,"
either - to each their own.

TC,
R

On Apr 3, 6:34*pm, wrote:

My first thought was that Sage had a relative few extras still rattling around
the shop for some reason, and someone figured out that there were two choices -
sell 'em cheap as a close-out OR make 'em seem like a bargain at any price and
get tip-top dollar, pardon the sorta-pun

Sage has a program for it's dealer network where they will make a run
of their discontinued rods as long as the dealer(s) buy the whole
batch. Last I heard the minimum number was 50. These will be new rods
with the warranty and of course they will carry the full retail
price.

On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:34:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Apr 3, 6:34*pm, wrote:

My first thought was that Sage had a relative few extras still rattling around
the shop for some reason, and someone figured out that there were two choices -
sell 'em cheap as a close-out OR make 'em seem like a bargain at any price and
get tip-top dollar, pardon the sorta-pun

Sage has a program for it's dealer network where they will make a run
of their discontinued rods as long as the dealer(s) buy the whole
batch. Last I heard the minimum number was 50. These will be new rods
with the warranty and of course they will carry the full retail
price.

Hilarious. Any idea how Sage rationalizes it? It would seem that given Sage
(and that of other makers, as well) marketing that their newest offering makes
the last offering look barely usable, which made its predecessor barely usable,
etc., offering models from one or more models ago would be, um,
"counter-productive."

TC,
R
....and good to see you still around, BTW...

On Apr 3, 4:27*pm, wrote:
one every time.

Your mileage obviously varies on that point. *I don't see the point of paying
double, or nearly so, merely for a warranty, but I don't see it as "wrong,"
either - to each their own.

TC,
R- Hide quoted text -



Good to know. I should check the E-bay thing out. Ive casted the LL a
few times and always thought I should get one.

Dave