Fishing and Gettysburg

I fished the Kadunce River yesterday. The Kadunce dumps into
Lake Superior at Colvill just up the North Shore from Grand
Marais where we vacation. There is a plaque there explaining
that Colvill is named for Colonel William Colvill of the 1st
Minnesota Regiment.

On July 2, 1863 the 1st Minnesota was ordered to charge into
two brigades of enemy advancing toward Cemetery Ridge. The
charge led by Col Colvill bought enough time for reinforcements
to arrive and Cemetery Ridge remained in Union control. Of the
262 men in the charge 215 were killed or wounded, "47 men were
still in line & no man missing." The 83% casualty rate is the
largest ever suffered by a surviving American military unit in
a single engagement.

The 47 remaining men were placed by happenstance on the Union
line the next day at the point of Picket's charge. During the
melee the 1st Minnesota captured the flag of the 28th Virginia
Infantry. The Virginian flag now resides at the Minnesota
Historical Society. A few years ago Virginia demanded that
Minnesota return its flag. Minnesota responded, in the nicest
way possible, **** You.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Sep 21, 7:37*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

On July 2, 1863 the 1st Minnesota was ordered to charge into
two brigades of enemy advancing toward Cemetery Ridge. The

If you've (anyone) never been there and get the chance, by all means
visit it. A truly sacred place, where a tremendous price was paid to
uphold the ideals of this country. It ought to be a requirement that
all Washington politicians go sit out there one day a year, no
shenanigans, no media, no high dollar fundraisers, just sit and
contemplate what some have been (and still are) willing to do for our
country. Maybe they'd surprise us in a good way then...

Jon.
Yeah I'd keep the flag too.

On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:24:41 -0700 (PDT), Jonathan Cook
wrote:

On Sep 21, 7:37*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

On July 2, 1863 the 1st Minnesota was ordered to charge into
two brigades of enemy advancing toward Cemetery Ridge. The

If you've (anyone) never been there and get the chance, by all means
visit it. A truly sacred place, where a tremendous price was paid to
uphold the ideals of this country. It ought to be a requirement that
all Washington politicians go sit out there one day a year, no
shenanigans, no media, no high dollar fundraisers, just sit and
contemplate what some have been (and still are) willing to do for our
country. Maybe they'd surprise us in a good way then...

Are you ****ing kidding me? You might wish to look a bit more into exactly what
happened at Gettysburg, particularly the casualty rate on both sides (roughly
equal), as well as what led to those casualties. You might also look into the
conduct and orders of Robert E. Lee, esp. with regards to civilians, versus that
of Abraham Lincoln, et al, of the US/Union insofar as US troops in the South.
About the only thing Gettysburg truly demonstrated, as an overall battle, was
that generals and their masters are willing to let privates die in horrific
numbers to advance "the cause." And it wouldn't have taken much at all for the
Confederates to have won, "any given Sunday," if you will.

Jon.
Yeah I'd keep the flag too.

As would I.

HTH,
R

On Sep 21, 8:37*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
I fished the Kadunce River yesterday. The Kadunce dumps into
Lake Superior at Colvill just up the North Shore from Grand
Marais where we vacation. There is a plaque there explaining
that Colvill is named for Colonel William Colvill of the 1st
Minnesota Regiment.

There is a plaque at the airport in Milwaukee explaining that it is
named for General Billy Mitchell. There is a plaque somewhere in
Sparta explaining that the stretch of Wi. hwy. 27 leading into town is
the Deke Slayton memorial hwy. There is a plaque somewhere in
Waukesha explaining that a portion of Wi. hwy 18 (or 164 or 59 or some
goddamn road or another) is the Les Paul memorial hwy. Like Colvill,
none of the above died in battle. Coincidence is the great
fundamental organizing principle of the universe.

On July 2, 1863 the 1st Minnesota was ordered to charge into
two brigades of enemy advancing toward Cemetery Ridge. The
charge led by Col Colvill bought enough time for reinforcements
to arrive and Cemetery Ridge remained in Union control. Of the
262 men in the charge 215 were killed or wounded, "47 men were
still in line & no man missing." The 83% casualty rate is the
largest ever suffered by a surviving American military unit in
a single engagement.

Well, it was pretty much inevitable that someone or other would
eventually win that dubious distinction.
But it does raise the question of which "Americans" we're talking
about here.

And then, there's also the question of which military (or civilian)
unit has suffered the highest casualty rate INFLICTED by an American
military unit in a single engagement.

The 47 remaining men were placed by happenstance on the Union
line the next day at the point of Picket's charge.

Just pure random luck, eh? Could as well have been assigned to
Dresden.

During the
melee the 1st Minnesota captured the flag of the 28th Virginia
Infantry.

Well, golly.

The Virginian flag now resides at the Minnesota
Historical Society.

Heck, oh gee!

A few years ago Virginia demanded that
Minnesota return its flag. Minnesota responded, in the nicest
way possible, **** You.

Every landfill in the world is chock full of rags......and everybody
wants THAT one, huh?

Ken Fortenberry

Nice try, doughboy.

g.
BOO!

On Sep 21, 4:24*pm, Jonathan Cook wrote:


If you've (anyone) never been there

I have.

and get the chance, by all means
visit it. A truly sacred place,

Reminded me a lot of the killing floor at the Patrick Cudahy meat
packing plant in Cudahy (no, duh!) Wi.......except greener. Hey, at
least the belligerants in this one had the good sense to pick a place
with a nicely manicured lawn. The spectators doubtless appreciated
their consideration.

where a tremendous price was paid to
uphold the ideals of this country.

Well, to be more precise, a tremendous price was paid to uphold the
ideals of TWO countries there. Hey, bullets ain't cheap regardless of
which direction they travel in.

It ought to be a requirement that
all Washington politicians go sit out there one day a year, no
shenanigans, no media, no high dollar fundraisers, just sit and
contemplate what some have been (and still are) willing to do for our
country. Maybe they'd surprise us in a good way then...

Yeah, boy, THAT'd teach 'em a lesson!!

Jon.
Yeah I'd keep the flag too.

If you locate my share, you're welcome to it.

g.
who has often been tempted to ask "what DO they teach in the schools
these days?" but dare not for fear of finding out what they teach in
the schools these days.

On Sep 21, 5:19*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:24:41 -0700 (PDT), Jonathan Cook
wrote:

On Sep 21, 7:37*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

On July 2, 1863 the 1st Minnesota was ordered to charge into
two brigades of enemy advancing toward Cemetery Ridge. The

If you've (anyone) never been there and get the chance, by all means
visit it. A truly sacred place, where a tremendous price was paid to
uphold the ideals of this country. It ought to be a requirement that
all Washington politicians go sit out there one day a year, no
shenanigans, no media, no high dollar fundraisers, just sit and
contemplate what some have been (and still are) willing to do for our
country. Maybe they'd surprise us in a good way then...

Are you ****ing kidding me? *You might wish to look a bit more into exactly what
happened at Gettysburg, particularly the casualty rate on both sides (roughly
equal), as well as what led to those casualties. *You might also look into the
conduct and orders of Robert E. Lee, esp. with regards to civilians, versus that
of Abraham Lincoln, et al, of the US/Union insofar as US troops in the South.
About the only thing Gettysburg truly demonstrated, as an overall battle, was
that generals and their masters are willing to let privates die in horrific
numbers to advance "the cause." *And it wouldn't have taken much at all for the
Confederates to have won, "any given Sunday," if you will.



Jon.
Yeah I'd keep the flag too.

As would I.

HTH,
R

Moron.

g.

Milwaukee has a plaque at the airport explained that it was named for General Billy Mitchell. Somewhere there is a plaque in Sparta explained that the stretch of Wi. Highway. 27 leading into the town of Leiden, Sri Lanka Dikembe Mutombo Memorial Highway. Waukesha has a plaque explains that part of the Wi somewhere.