Rotary Fly Tying Vises

I have been fly fishing for about a year and am thinking of trying tying.
I saw some videos on the Nor-Vise rotating vise system and it looked very
interesting. A couple of questions:

For those experienced tyers out there, is having the ability to rotate the
hook as useful as it appears to a novice?

What are the downsides? One thing I thought of is with the bobbin on the
stand and the hook rotating to add body materials, the thread will twist,
is this an issue?

Are there other rotating vise systems out there in addition to the one from
Nor-Vise tha I should consider?

Thanks for any insights that you can offer.

Jim

"Jim Edmondson" wrote in message
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I have been fly fishing for about a year and am thinking of trying tying. I
saw some videos on the Nor-Vise rotating vise system and it looked very
interesting. A couple of questions:

For those experienced tyers out there, is having the ability to rotate the
hook as useful as it appears to a novice?

What are the downsides? One thing I thought of is with the bobbin on the
stand and the hook rotating to add body materials, the thread will twist,
is this an issue?

Are there other rotating vise systems out there in addition to the one
from Nor-Vise tha I should consider?

Thanks for any insights that you can offer.

Jim

Jim,
I highly recommend the Renzetti Traveler
http://www.ezflyfish.com/rentravcamvi.html, the flyshop ain't so bad either.

Op

"Jim Edmondson" wrote in message
lobal.net...
I have been fly fishing for about a year and am thinking of trying tying. I
saw some videos on the Nor-Vise rotating vise system and it looked very
interesting. A couple of questions:

For those experienced tyers out there, is having the ability to rotate the
hook as useful as it appears to a novice?

What are the downsides? One thing I thought of is with the bobbin on the
stand and the hook rotating to add body materials, the thread will twist,
is this an issue?

Are there other rotating vise systems out there in addition to the one
from Nor-Vise tha I should consider?

Thanks for any insights that you can offer.

Jim



I have used a Renzetti rotary vise for about 20 years, before that a
Universal Rotary(no longer made). They do make certain aspects of tying
easier, and neater. The major insight I can offer is to find a decent
teacher for the basic steps, either a formal class or trusted(and patient)
friend to show you the basics. After that, it is simply a matter of
practice,practice, practice.
Tom

"Jim Edmondson" wrote in message
For those experienced tyers out there, is having the ability to rotate the
hook as useful as it appears to a novice?

Yes, it is very helpful for some techniques. I would suggest, however, that
as a novice, you learn how to wrap materials the "hard way" before using the
rotary feature for stuff.

What are the downsides? One thing I thought of is with the bobbin on the
stand and the hook rotating to add body materials, the thread will twist,
is this an issue?

The only real downside is extra cost. You can lock it to keep it from
rotating, so it's otherwise the same as a fixed vise. No, thread twist is
not an issue (well, never has been for me.) The relatively few turns needed
to tie on most materials is inconsequential to the thread twist.

Are there other rotating vise systems out there in addition to the one
from Nor-Vise tha I should consider?

I'll echo the endorsements for the Renzetti Traveler.

Jim Edmondson wrote:
I have been fly fishing for about a year and am thinking of trying
tying. I saw some videos on the Nor-Vise rotating vise system and it
looked very interesting. A couple of questions:

For those experienced tyers out there, is having the ability to rotate
the hook as useful as it appears to a novice?

What are the downsides? One thing I thought of is with the bobbin on
the stand and the hook rotating to add body materials, the thread will
twist, is this an issue?

Are there other rotating vise systems out there in addition to the one
from Nor-Vise tha I should consider?

Thanks for any insights that you can offer.

I use the Sal****er Renzetti Traveler, with is useful if you want to tie
large flies (salmon, steelhead, bass, sal****er fish). You give up some
functionality for small flies, but it's still workable for them.

I rarely use my vise as a true rotary, and I feel like that's only
useful for "production" work, but it's really handy to be able to turn
the fly over to dress the undersides.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On another note, only purchase 1/10 the tying material you need or you will
never be able to tie all the flies you have material for in a lifetime. Most
fly tiers have hoards of fly tying material, stuffed in every corner,
collected from decades collecting.

Somebody here named Frank would most likely agree.

I heard my tying material hoarding name here.
Okay, on the vise. I've got a Norvise. Its really not a beginners
tool. Yes, you can do every thing in the world with it, but a
beginner may get frustrated, loose interest... and I get another Ebay
deal on a $400 vise (when you buy all the extras, i.e. the special
bobbins, thats what its going to cost).
Renzetis are nice, but they're overpriced for a fancy pair of
Visegrips with a stand. One vise I keep going back too is my
DanVise. Its the one piece of Orvis kit that I would recommend.
Personnally, I got mine as a Danica Vise before Orvis got the rights
to them. They are a true rotary, they will take tons of beating
around, and the only thing I've replaced on mine in 12 years of use is
two O rings. And trust me on this, I've tie a bunch of flies with
this thing (my traveling fly boxes are legendary). Even better, if
you pay more than 80 bucks for it, you got ripped off.
Frank Reid

This is the DanVise: http://tinyurl.com/2yj4cr
Frank Reid

On 7 Oct, 03:15, Frank Reid wrote:
This is the DanVise: http://tinyurl.com/2yj4cr
Frank Reid

Get the extension arm for it from here;


Tight Lines - Al & Gretchen Beatty
www.btsflyfishing.com
BT's Fly Fishing Products &
Flyfisher Magazine


208-362-2663 (phone & fax)
208-861-0564 (cell)


Makes a big difference to hook access. If you are feeling kindly,
recommend it to others as well.


I wont post directly to ROFF any more, but people should know about
this.

TL
MC

On 7 Oct, 04:02, Mike wrote:
On 7 Oct, 03:15, Frank Reid wrote:

This is the DanVise: http://tinyurl.com/2yj4cr
Frank Reid

Get the extension arm for it from here;

Tight Lines - Al & Gretchen Beattywww.btsflyfishing.com
BT's Fly Fishing Products &
Flyfisher Magazine


208-362-2663 (phone & fax)
208-861-0564 (cell)

Makes a big difference to hook access. If you are feeling kindly,
recommend it to others as well.

I wont post directly to ROFF any more, but people should know about
this.

TL
MC

Sorry, forgot the link;

http://btsflyfishing.com/danvise.htm

vices, snip snip

I have a Renzetti presentation 3000. I love the thing. It has
plenty of room to work arround the hook. If you have large hands like me,
you will appreciate the room. It is pricy at $350 but will last a lifetime
and after all if flytying is your passion, whats money ?
Edmond Dantes