Fishing In Ireland

I'm thinking of going to Ireland last week in May to do some fly or Spinning
Fishing.

Anybody got any places that they would stay away from??
Where are the best areas to go

Many thanks

Eric the fish

On May 9, 12:42 pm, "howard.m" wrote:
I'm thinking of going to Ireland last week in May to do some fly or Spinning
Fishing.

Anybody got any places that they would stay away from??
Where are the best areas to go

Many thanks

Eric the fish

dear eric

as u may not now there is a bit of a dispute going on over here at the
minute,the fisheryboards have closed alot of rivers all over
ireland....23 in donegal alone..........and the rod licensce has
doubled.There is still fishing to be had but there is alot of frayed
tempers here.Netsmen who have been told to stop are still fishing and
are going to keep fishing until the goverment pay them what they are
owned to stop.The Irish goverment are as straight as a hoop..when the
stopped the nets then they closed the rivers because they are not
meeting conservation standards but why could they not wait 1 year and
see what comes of the drift nets off.Another thing is that the
goverment or great goverment have stopped the drift nets for good and
have douubled the draft nets in sum systems,makes sense????????????

p.s eric there is still sum good fishing to be had........i could just
go on writing about it but i get so mad.....


shane

On Wed, 9 May 2007 at 11:41:19 in uk.rec.fishing.game shane wrote:
On May 9, 12:42 pm, "howard.m" wrote:
I'm thinking of going to Ireland last week in May to do some fly or Spinning
Fishing.

Anybody got any places that they would stay away from??
Where are the best areas to go

[...]

as u may not now there is a bit of a dispute going on over here at the
minute,the fisheryboards have closed alot of rivers all over
ireland....23 in donegal alone..........and the rod licensce has
doubled.There is still fishing to be had but there is alot of frayed
tempers here.Netsmen who have been told to stop are still fishing and
are going to keep fishing until the goverment pay them what they are
owned to stop.The Irish goverment are as straight as a hoop..when the
stopped the nets then they closed the rivers because they are not
meeting conservation standards but why could they not wait 1 year and
see what comes of the drift nets off.Another thing is that the
goverment or great goverment have stopped the drift nets for good and
have douubled the draft nets in sum systems,makes sense????????????

Yes it makes sense. The reason for that is to stop "mixed stock"
fishing (drifts) at sea. To manage stocks properly you have to know
which system the fish belong to. If that system is doing OK,
exploitation can be allowed *within the system* (eg by drafts and rods).
If not, then the rods might need to come off as well as the nets.

The drift nets at sea were (probably still are) taking not just Irish
fish from various systems but also Welsh and English fish. Many tagged
fish from various Welsh rivers have been caught there.

So in principle it makes sense. But it hasn't been handled very well...
Lots of vested interests involved. Including (in the past, allegedly)
paramilitaries... Big earner...

p.s eric there is still sum good fishing to be had........i could just
go on writing about it but i get so mad.....

Yeah... Quite... Lots of people who don't understand it are getting
mad...

--
Nogood Boyo

In article , howard.m
wrote:
I'm thinking of going to Ireland last week in May to do some fly or Spinning
Fishing.

Anybody got any places that they would stay away from??

Just the obvious point that fishing can be crowded, and sometime more
expensive, near the bigger towns/cities.

Where are the best areas to go

You can find fishing practically anywhere in Ireland. I usually go west -
for no particularly good reason, and settle on a base for the period of my
stay. The pattern then is to explore the whole area but to concentrate some
time on most days on one or two venues, to learn the rhythm of the water.

I also reckon that overplanning ruins fishing holidays. By all means book
something in advance for your first day but leave most of the period open to
improvisation - that way you can adapt to the weather and climate - fish a
sheltered water on the day of the storm and then switch to the bottom beat
two day's later when the flood brings the grilse in from the sea and so on.

You know you're getting it right if the results gradually improve and the
best fish is caught on the last day -just- before you have to dash for the
ferry...

Pick your area based on your most convenient crossing. Choose somewhere no
more than a couple of hours from your entry/exit port. Don't discount NI if
you're traveling from the North. For the Republic ring the Tourist Office
in the area and ask for the contact details for a tackle shop in that area -
there are some strange temporary restrictions on some waters atm and they'll
know what's open.

Have fun. Cheerio,

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On May 10, 5:11 pm, Derek Moody wrote:
In article , howard.m

wrote:
I'm thinking of going to Ireland last week in May to do some fly or Spinning
Fishing.

Anybody got any places that they would stay away from??

Just the obvious point that fishing can be crowded, and sometime more
expensive, near the bigger towns/cities.

Where are the best areas to go

You can find fishing practically anywhere in Ireland. I usually go west -
for no particularly good reason, and settle on a base for the period of my
stay. The pattern then is to explore the whole area but to concentrate some
time on most days on one or two venues, to learn the rhythm of the water.

I also reckon that overplanning ruins fishing holidays. By all means book
something in advance for your first day but leave most of the period open to
improvisation - that way you can adapt to the weather and climate - fish a
sheltered water on the day of the storm and then switch to the bottom beat
two day's later when the flood brings the grilse in from the sea and so on.

You know you're getting it right if the results gradually improve and the
best fish is caught on the last day -just- before you have to dash for the
ferry...

Pick your area based on your most convenient crossing. Choose somewhere no
more than a couple of hours from your entry/exit port. Don't discount NI if
you're traveling from the North. For the Republic ring the Tourist Office
in the area and ask for the contact details for a tackle shop in that area -
there are some strange temporary restrictions on some waters atm and they'll
know what's open.

Have fun. Cheerio,

--
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Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/

to derek

on your report about coming to ireland did u need read what i
said??????????not to cum across in a bad way but,think about
this!!!............your three local rivers beside u have been closed
for sum stupid reason for salmon,and could be closed for up to three
years, and u cant fish and u have fished these rivers all your life
and suddenly the fishery board close,s them !!think about it????

would u want tourists coming to fish?? i dont think so.If there was a
dispute on a river or rivers near u and i was coming to fish
and i heard this i would stay away because we are all fishermen and we
sould all stand together.

derek think about this and to all others who read this..........when
this is settled and hopefully it will be people are more than
welcome,derek there is no better advice than local advice!!....check
this out u will not find all u need to now on the fishery boards
website look to the local papers

tight lines shane

In article . com,
wrote:
On May 10, 5:11 pm, Derek Moody wrote:
In article , howard.m

wrote:
I'm thinking of going to Ireland last week in May to do some fly or Spinning
Fishing.

in the area and ask for the contact details for a tackle shop in that area -
there are some strange temporary restrictions on some waters atm and they'll
know what's open.

on your report about coming to ireland did u need read what i
said??????????not to cum across in a bad way but,think about

Not 'til after I'd replied to the OP.

this!!!............your three local rivers beside u have been closed
for sum stupid reason for salmon,and could be closed for up to three
years, and u cant fish and u have fished these rivers all your life
and suddenly the fishery board close,s them !!think about it????

...but I did warn him to to check for local closures - I left it in (above).

would u want tourists coming to fish?? i dont think so.If there was a
dispute on a river or rivers near u and i was coming to fish
and i heard this i would stay away because we are all fishermen and we
sould all stand together.

He didn't mention rivers - or salmon. I assumed, because he asked on a game
fishing ng, that he meant trout or salmon but he only specified flyfishing
and spinning. During my last four fishing trips to Ireland I've always
carried salmon gear but only actually fished for salmon on four days out of
those 40 odd (for one fish - my average would have been better if I hadn't
let that fish persuade me the river was in better order than my eyes told me
and so salmon fished on two more days of the trip.) As it happens I think
I've only fished for trout about as often. The last few visits have
coincided with weather which meant the sea fishing (much of it with a fly
rod) was the better bet.

You -want- the tourists, especially in the far west. Maybe you don't want
them fishing the disputed waters but there's no reason they shouldn't fish
others and then register their displeasure on the Tourist Board satisfaction
form they give out in the ferry boarding queues.

Over here we have a blanket restriction on the first half of the season -
you can fish but until June *all* salmon must be returned.

If, as a result, the fishing improves then maybe it will have been worth it.
We'll have to wait and see. I think some of the powers that be are
beginning to realise that one rod caught salmon is worth a great deal more
in tourist money than a boxful taken at sea is to the fish trade. It rather
depends which vested interests shout louder and whether politicians can be
persuaded there are votes in it. Tourists don't have a vote.

derek think about this and to all others who read this..........when
this is settled and hopefully it will be people are more than
welcome,derek there is no better advice than local advice!!....check
this out u will not find all u need to now on the fishery boards
website look to the local papers

tight lines shane

Cheerio,

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Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
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http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/

On May 12, 5:38 pm, Derek Moody wrote:
In article . com,

wrote:
On May 10, 5:11 pm, Derek Moody wrote:
In article , howard.m

wrote:
I'm thinking of going to Ireland last week in May to do some fly or Spinning
Fishing.
in the area and ask for the contact details for a tackle shop in that area -
there are some strange temporary restrictions on some waters atm and they'll
know what's open.
on your report about coming to ireland did u need read what i
said??????????not to cum across in a bad way but,think about

Not 'til after I'd replied to the OP.

this!!!............your three local rivers beside u have been closed
for sum stupid reason for salmon,and could be closed for up to three
years, and u cant fish and u have fished these rivers all your life
and suddenly the fishery board close,s them !!think about it????

..but I did warn him to to check for local closures - I left it in (above).

would u want tourists coming to fish?? i dont think so.If there was a
dispute on a river or rivers near u and i was coming to fish
and i heard this i would stay away because we are all fishermen and we
sould all stand together.

He didn't mention rivers - or salmon. I assumed, because he asked on a game
fishing ng, that he meant trout or salmon but he only specified flyfishing
and spinning. During my last four fishing trips to Ireland I've always
carried salmon gear but only actually fished for salmon on four days out of
those 40 odd (for one fish - my average would have been better if I hadn't
let that fish persuade me the river was in better order than my eyes told me
and so salmon fished on two more days of the trip.) As it happens I think
I've only fished for trout about as often. The last few visits have
coincided with weather which meant the sea fishing (much of it with a fly
rod) was the better bet.

You -want- the tourists, especially in the far west. Maybe you don't want
them fishing the disputed waters but there's no reason they shouldn't fish
others and then register their displeasure on the Tourist Board satisfaction
form they give out in the ferry boarding queues.

Over here we have a blanket restriction on the first half of the season -
you can fish but until June *all* salmon must be returned.

If, as a result, the fishing improves then maybe it will have been worth it.
We'll have to wait and see. I think some of the powers that be are
beginning to realise that one rod caught salmon is worth a great deal more
in tourist money than a boxful taken at sea is to the fish trade. It rather
depends which vested interests shout louder and whether politicians can be
persuaded there are votes in it. Tourists don't have a vote.

derek think about this and to all others who read this..........when
this is settled and hopefully it will be people are more than
welcome,derek there is no better advice than local advice!!....check
this out u will not find all u need to now on the fishery boards
website look to the local papers

tight lines shane

Cheerio,

--
Fishing: http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/

derek

thanks for the reply....and u are right what u are saying....

tight lines derek

shane

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oups.com...
On May 12, 5:38 pm, Derek Moody wrote:
In article . com,

wrote:
On May 10, 5:11 pm, Derek Moody wrote:
In article , howard.m

wrote:
I'm thinking of going to Ireland last week in May to do some fly or
Spinning
Fishing.
in the area and ask for the contact details for a tackle shop in that
area -
there are some strange temporary restrictions on some waters atm and
they'll
know what's open.
on your report about coming to ireland did u need read what i
said??????????not to cum across in a bad way but,think about

Not 'til after I'd replied to the OP.

this!!!............your three local rivers beside u have been closed
for sum stupid reason for salmon,and could be closed for up to three
years, and u cant fish and u have fished these rivers all your life
and suddenly the fishery board close,s them !!think about it????

..but I did warn him to to check for local closures - I left it in
(above).

would u want tourists coming to fish?? i dont think so.If there was a
dispute on a river or rivers near u and i was coming to fish
and i heard this i would stay away because we are all fishermen and we
sould all stand together.

He didn't mention rivers - or salmon. I assumed, because he asked on a
game
fishing ng, that he meant trout or salmon but he only specified
flyfishing
and spinning. During my last four fishing trips to Ireland I've always
carried salmon gear but only actually fished for salmon on four days out
of
those 40 odd (for one fish - my average would have been better if I
hadn't
let that fish persuade me the river was in better order than my eyes told
me
and so salmon fished on two more days of the trip.) As it happens I
think
I've only fished for trout about as often. The last few visits have
coincided with weather which meant the sea fishing (much of it with a fly
rod) was the better bet.

You -want- the tourists, especially in the far west. Maybe you don't
want
them fishing the disputed waters but there's no reason they shouldn't
fish
others and then register their displeasure on the Tourist Board
satisfaction
form they give out in the ferry boarding queues.

Over here we have a blanket restriction on the first half of the season -
you can fish but until June *all* salmon must be returned.

If, as a result, the fishing improves then maybe it will have been worth
it.
We'll have to wait and see. I think some of the powers that be are
beginning to realise that one rod caught salmon is worth a great deal
more
in tourist money than a boxful taken at sea is to the fish trade. It
rather
depends which vested interests shout louder and whether politicians can
be
persuaded there are votes in it. Tourists don't have a vote.

derek think about this and to all others who read this..........when
this is settled and hopefully it will be people are more than
welcome,derek there is no better advice than local advice!!....check
this out u will not find all u need to now on the fishery boards
website look to the local papers

tight lines shane

Cheerio,

--
Fishing: http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/

derek

thanks for the reply....and u are right what u are saying....

tight lines derek

shane
thanks for all the reply, I hope to go somewhere near Knock because I'll be
flying

In article , howard.m
wrote:

thanks for all the reply, I hope to go somewhere near Knock because I'll be
flying

The Moy, the western rivers, some gorgeous loughs and a fantastic
coastline, you could do a lot worse ;-)

I've a short article on a trip there with a couple of chaps from this ng -
take a look at:

http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/trips/moy1.html

Cheerio,

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Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/

In article , Derek Moody
writes
I've a short article on a trip there with a couple of chaps from this ng -
take a look at:

http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/trips/moy1.html

I take it the fish is the one not sporting a beard :-)
--
Bill Grey