Softex

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 17:10:36 GMT, "Hooked" wrote:

So the toluene is not much worse than the isopropyl-alcohol. Hmmmm...

Sure, ask any glue sniffer - if you can find one that can still talk.
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Charlie...

"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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Sure, ask any glue sniffer - if you can find one that can still talk.
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I say blame the damned chemical companies. They're the ones making life much
easier for all of us.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 17:39:12 GMT, "Hooked" wrote:

"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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Sure, ask any glue sniffer - if you can find one that can still talk.
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I say blame the damned chemical companies. They're the ones making life much
easier for all of us.

Blame who you want, but toluene inhalation can cause irreversible
brain damage. Not likely in the amount you'll be using but thinking
that toluene is no more dangerous than isopropyl alcohol may not make
you careful enough.
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Charlie...

Charlie Choc wrote in
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 17:39:12 GMT, "Hooked" wrote:

"Charlie Choc" wrote in
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Sure, ask any glue sniffer - if you can find one that can still
talk. --


I say blame the damned chemical companies. They're the ones making
life much easier for all of us.

Blame who you want, but toluene inhalation can cause irreversible
brain damage. Not likely in the amount you'll be using but thinking
that toluene is no more dangerous than isopropyl alcohol may not make
you careful enough.

In the amounts we're talking about, is adding toluene any more dangerous
than using toluene-based stuff in the first place??

Scott

On 23 Feb 2004 18:12:25 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

In the amounts we're talking about, is adding toluene any more dangerous
than using toluene-based stuff in the first place??

If you spill a quart on the floor it is. That's when you need to know
that toluene is more dangerous than isopropyl alcohol.
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Charlie...

"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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Blame who you want, but toluene inhalation can cause irreversible
brain damage. Not likely in the amount you'll be using but thinking
that toluene is no more dangerous than isopropyl alcohol may not make
you careful enough.
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I'll bet I get one whiff of the stuff and I'll know it's a lot worse than
alcohol in that respect. I was only referring to the MSDS pages that were
posted above about how volatile the stuff is, and about storing it in the
house. They are almost compatible in flammability and explosiveness. (But
then again, that would probably depend upon the air mix ratio and flash
point of each.)

Scott Seidman wrote in
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Charlie Choc wrote in
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 17:39:12 GMT, "Hooked" wrote:

"Charlie Choc" wrote in
message ...

Sure, ask any glue sniffer - if you can find one that can still
talk. --


I say blame the damned chemical companies. They're the ones making
life much easier for all of us.

Blame who you want, but toluene inhalation can cause irreversible
brain damage. Not likely in the amount you'll be using but thinking
that toluene is no more dangerous than isopropyl alcohol may not make
you careful enough.

In the amounts we're talking about, is adding toluene any more dangerous
than using toluene-based stuff in the first place??

Scott


As a follow up, on examining the MSDS, both toluene and isopropyl alcohol
have health risk numbers of two (moderate). Exposure limits for alcohol is
200 ppm TWA, and 100ppm for toluene, and those numbers are basically for
constant exposure during an 8 hour shift. Neither substance is a known
carcinogen.

Obvious intentional abuse aside, MSDS examination doesn't suggest that
toluene is much more dangerous than alcohol

Scott

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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In the amounts we're talking about, is adding toluene any more dangerous
than using toluene-based stuff in the first place??



I would imagine that if you left a pint sized can of toluene open on a table
as compared to a jar of Softex, yes.

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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The toll free number
for the US Coast Guard National Response Center is (800) 424-8802.


Why the Coast Guard?

Wouldn't I be better off calling the local Fire Dept. Hazmat Team?

On 23 Feb 2004 18:23:44 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Obvious intentional abuse aside, MSDS examination doesn't suggest that
toluene is much more dangerous than alcohol

OK. If you're comfortable treating them the same, I'm comfortable with
you treating them the same. g
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Charlie...