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  #11  
Old November 13th, 2007, 01:50 AM posted to uk.rec.fishing.coarse
Gandalf[_2_]
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Default Pike traces

Hi Derek,

Made my first trace tonight,needed magnifying glass to get the trace through
the crimps and did not realise how much force those damn things needed, mind
you I had to use long nose pliers as my normal pliers had a wide nose.

Looks good and I tested the crimp as best I could without problem, well
without problem to the crimp or hooks but not so for my fingers. So clumsy
and blind ten.VBG

Just got to test it on some un-expecting pike a couple of days.

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"Derek Moody" wrote in message
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In article , Gandalf
wrote:
Going to get the trace kits tomorrow as I am off for a days dedicated
pike
fishing on Thursday. I think I will use a smelt or herring rather than
bread
though.(;-) Basically I will be buying enough to make 10 traces and
spending
15 and I will not need more than ten traces this winter as pikeing will
be
done every other week I think.


Enough to prove your technique and even to experiment a little, good idea.

One trace you can't buy is a weighted sink and draw special - a 1oz bomb
on
the end, a strong single about 1" uptrace from it, a couple of trebles
spaced according to the size of bait and an added twist wire loop above
that.
The trace needs to be a little longer than the conventional snap. In this
case trebles are still probably best but I may experiment one day.

In use put the bomb in the mouth of your deadbait and stitch the mouth
closed with the single, bring the trace pack along the bait impaling at
strategic points and then tie the wire to the tail with the twist loop.
Cast the bait and it dives head first, wait half a minute, draw back to
the
surface and let it dive again .. and again. The action mimics a disabled
but living fish so unlike static deadbaits pike take hard and you can
strike
relatively quickly knowing the hooks are in the right place.

Don't use this with herring or mackerel - too soft. Scad, sand smelt or a
dead roach are tougher.

I am going to travel light so I can move round giving it half an hour in
each swim. I have seen several pike into double figures in about 5 swims
so
I will have.


The best 'groundbait' for a pike is a keepnet full of silver fish...

floatfished on #8 hooks tied direct to 4lb reel line...


I have had trout on floating bread before, as a kid we used to float a
bit


Sorry, maybe I wasn't too clear: floatfished - ie. under a float, rather
than floating on the surface (though floating crust is a favourite bait
of mine) - in this case a small quill carrying 6bb - a group and one bb as
a telltale. I don't thing anyone else had much, most were sitting at
slow,
deep swims and I had all mine in streamy water under 3' deep.

of crust under the old road bridge in Cricklade. It used to hammer
through
and then float in an eddy on the other side where it would be taken by
almost anything that happened to be there. Great fun trying to pull it
back
through a mass of water doing 60 miles an hour as well. A 3 lb chub
seemed
more like a 20 lb pike.


g

Cheerio,

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Old January 6th, 2008, 12:50 PM posted to uk.rec.fishing.coarse
John Fox
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Default Pike traces

I make my own traces, very easy.
Just buy a length of wire trace and put swivel and snap links on.


John Fox

Gandalf wrote:
Hi all

Anyone got any idea on making your own pike traces. It seems it is all out
there to buy but has anyone done it and can they let me know the basic costs
( I can not browse my local angling store so you get in a position where you
feel obliged to buy ).

I did note the trebles seems expensive at nearly 5 a pair which seemed odd
as a premade trace is only 2.75.

So any gems of wisdom would be greatly appreciated please.

The reason is my son wanted to have a go at pike fishing and he only fishes
once every other year. Anyway to cut a long story short he hooked into 4.
Lost the first one at the net, landed number 2 on a dead bait but only about
7 lbs so not massive. Number 3 was larger and snagged him up before he got
control but number 4 was the real gem. As he had been snagged he had broken
off above the float so I attached a plug I have had for longer than he has
been alive, a plug I had no success with at all I will add. I used the plug
to retrieve the bung and release the line to rot as I could not retrieve it
but my son fancied having a go a plug fishing. I gave it a couple of good
runs to show him how to do it and test the swim then went for a sit down and
watch my feeder rod.

Well no sooner had I hit the chair with my bum than he is shouting, seems
first cast and he has one on and we land it. Jammy little sod was grinning
like a Cheshire cat.

So I am going to do some pike fishing now as I have to do something to shut
the little sod up, a trait he gets from his mother I will add.VBG

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Old January 6th, 2008, 04:20 PM posted to uk.rec.fishing.coarse
Gandalf[_2_]
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Default Pike traces

Now I have done it I agree and I have had the strength of the crimps tested
as well just not a big fish yet. Soon will though.VBG

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"John Fox" wrote in message
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I make my own traces, very easy.
Just buy a length of wire trace and put swivel and snap links on.


John Fox

Gandalf wrote:
Hi all

Anyone got any idea on making your own pike traces. It seems it is all
out there to buy but has anyone done it and can they let me know the
basic costs ( I can not browse my local angling store so you get in a
position where you feel obliged to buy ).

I did note the trebles seems expensive at nearly 5 a pair which seemed
odd as a premade trace is only 2.75.

So any gems of wisdom would be greatly appreciated please.

The reason is my son wanted to have a go at pike fishing and he only
fishes once every other year. Anyway to cut a long story short he hooked
into 4. Lost the first one at the net, landed number 2 on a dead bait but
only about 7 lbs so not massive. Number 3 was larger and snagged him up
before he got control but number 4 was the real gem. As he had been
snagged he had broken off above the float so I attached a plug I have had
for longer than he has been alive, a plug I had no success with at all I
will add. I used the plug to retrieve the bung and release the line to
rot as I could not retrieve it but my son fancied having a go a plug
fishing. I gave it a couple of good runs to show him how to do it and
test the swim then went for a sit down and watch my feeder rod.

Well no sooner had I hit the chair with my bum than he is shouting, seems
first cast and he has one on and we land it. Jammy little sod was
grinning like a Cheshire cat.

So I am going to do some pike fishing now as I have to do something to
shut the little sod up, a trait he gets from his mother I will add.VBG



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Old February 22nd, 2011, 07:29 PM
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Reason is that my son would like to have a go at Pike fish fishing, he only once every other year. Anyway, cut long story short, he is 4 hooked. Lost in the net first, thought of a number 2 dead bait, but only about 7 pounds so there is no great. 3 is a large, hooked him before he was brought under control, but 4 is a real gem.
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Old April 30th, 2011, 07:31 PM
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To track the package along the bait piercing.Strategic points, and then reversing the loop tie wire tail.Casting bait, diving head first, so half a minute, draw back.Water table, it again .. and again. Mimic the action of persons with disabilities.
 




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