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biot and herl
Hi all
i am in need of some goose biots in an amber color and some peacock herl dyed amber also... my local fly shop has no such item... anyone have some that they could sell to me... thanx ... andy |
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my email is if their are any replies...
thanx .. again Andy |
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A few years ago, someone gave me a white ()read light) feather, but I had
the impression that the color was natural: from an albino, or just a throwback on a bird. I would be surprised if the dark feathers could b dyed a light color, because they would first have to be bleached, and I would guess that would burn off most of the herl. If you get a source, I would also be interested "Andy Klinstiver" wrote in message ... Hi all i am in need of some goose biots in an amber color and some peacock herl dyed amber also... my local fly shop has no such item... anyone have some that they could sell to me... thanx ... andy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.559 / Virus Database: 351 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 |
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I picked up a couple packages of white biots at the Michaels craft
store a while back,, made some cream ones by dying the white in black tea Bear www.amazon.com/shops/inland_canal_general_store www.cafeshops.com/everythinggoes |
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"Andy Klinstiver" wrote in message ... Hi all i am in need of some goose biots in an amber color and some peacock herl dyed amber also... my local fly shop has no such item... anyone have some that they could sell to me... thanx ... andy Buy white biots. Wind them in a helix around a 1/16 inch wood dowel, a knitting needle, or whatever else you can find, so that the individual barbs stand out from the core you wind them around, and tie off at both ends. Buy a three pound bag of ordinary yellow onions. Take all the dry papery skins off the onions and boil them in about a pint of water for ten minutes. Remove the infusion from heat and insert the biots. Remove the biots every minute or so and examine until they obtain the shade you desire. Rinse in cold tap water. Air dry. Peacock herl can be treated in a similar fashion.....after bleaching.....but I can't think of a good reason to go to all the trouble. Peacock herl in it's natural color is THE magic fly tying material. Wolfgang |
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Wolfgang wrote: "Andy Klinstiver" wrote in message ... Hi all i am in need of some goose biots in an amber color and some peacock herl dyed amber also... my local fly shop has no such item... anyone have some that they could sell to me... thanx ... andy Peacock herl can be treated in a similar fashion.....after bleaching.....but I can't think of a good reason to go to all the trouble. Peacock herl in it's natural color is THE magic fly tying material. Leaving peacock herl on a sunny window sill will cause it to take on a golden hue while still keeping much of its irridescence. It won't be amber, but will be closer. Willi |
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"Willi" wrote in message ... Wolfgang wrote: "Andy Klinstiver" wrote in message ... Hi all i am in need of some goose biots in an amber color and some peacock herl dyed amber also... my local fly shop has no such item... anyone have some that they could sell to me... thanx ... andy Peacock herl can be treated in a similar fashion.....after bleaching.....but I can't think of a good reason to go to all the trouble. Peacock herl in it's natural color is THE magic fly tying material. Leaving peacock herl on a sunny window sill will cause it to take on a golden hue while still keeping much of its irridescence. It won't be amber, but will be closer. If memory serves, some of it is sold in more or less that color under a rubric that escapes me just now. I suspect that UV bleaching (if that's how the color is typically obtained) is about as deleterious (think sunburn) as chlorine bleaching, but that's just a guess. At any rate, while variant colors of peacock herl may be interesting for one reason or another, the original article in it's natural colors is still one of the very few really magical materials available to the fly tier. If the object is catching fish, as opposed to experimentation for its own sake (not a bad thing, to be sure), best to leave well enough alone. Meanwhile, stripped peacock herl is a wonderful material for quill bodies......a matter that came up here recently, I believe.....and is best obtained by roughly the same method used for stripped hackle quills. Simply hold the feather tightly near the tip end and, using the nail of the index finger and the pad of the thumb on the other hand, squeeze and pull down along the shank. It will take several repetitions to remove all of the barbules. For hackles, the difference is that one grabs half a dozen to a dozen or so of the barbules with finger and thumb and pulls them sharply down toward the butt of the feather, just as one would to harvest them for tailing, wings, etc. Repeat as many times as necessary to remove all of them. Anyone who routinely uses hackle barbs for tails and wings (a very good thing to do) will necessarily have a good supply of quill bodies ready to hand. Wolfgang um......bronze herl?.....is that it? |
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"Wolfgang" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... SNIP Wolfgang um......bronze herl?.....is that it? http://www.flytyingworld.com/cgi-bin...rum=DCForumID2 TL MC |
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Wolfgang wrote: Wolfgang um......bronze herl?.....is that it? That's it. I don't find that sun bleaching changes the properties except for changing the green to a goldish color. It still keeps its iridescence which is what I think makes peacock herl effective. Someone wants an amber herl, the sun bleaching will get him close without losing the iridescence that bleaching and dying will destroy. However, we have very little understanding of how a trout perceives color. We do know that they perceive farther into the ultra violet and infra red part of the spectrum than we do. Any color matching with our eyes is likely to be erroneous in terms of how a trout perceives the color. Matching color is for the tyer not the fish, IMO. Choosing color by how the trout responds, is a different case. Willi |
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