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  #31  
Old November 15th, 2006, 04:19 PM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
Rodney Long
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pearl wrote:

rant snipped


TRUTH IGNORED, AS ALWAYS WITH YOUR GROUP,, IF IT DOES NOT FIT YOUR
"BELIEFS" YOU TOSS IT OUT.

TELL ME, WOULD YOU LET YOUR CHILD DIE, IF AN ANIMAL'S DEATH COULD SAVE
IT ??????????????????????????????????????



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  #32  
Old November 15th, 2006, 05:19 PM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
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"Rodney Long" wrote in message ...
pearl wrote:

rant snipped


TRUTH IGNORED, AS ALWAYS WITH YOUR GROUP,, IF IT DOES NOT FIT YOUR
"BELIEFS" YOU TOSS IT OUT.


Projection.

'Bullies project their inadequacies, shortcomings, behaviours
etc on to other people to avoid facing up to their inadequacy
and doing something about it (learning about oneself can be
painful), and to distract and divert attention away from
themselves and their inadequacies. Projection is achieved
through blame, criticism and allegation; once you realise this,
every criticism, allegation etc that the bully makes about their
target is actually an admission or revelation about themselves.'

The Socialised Psychopath or Sociopath
http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm

TELL ME, WOULD YOU LET YOUR CHILD DIE, IF AN ANIMAL'S DEATH COULD SAVE
IT ??????????????????????????????????????


Not in that position. Are you? Tell us.. Will you let people
continue to die, if quitting your meat habit could save them?




  #33  
Old November 15th, 2006, 05:30 PM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
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Default Tuna salad anyone? Death of a Tuna and Death of a Whale

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:08:08 -0600, Rodney Long wrote:

pearl wrote:


The FACTS are on our side.


Total bull S. that I snipped, you quoted every source there is on your
side,, a hand full of nut cases. less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the
scientist that work in this field, 99.5 % of all the other PHD's
totally disagree. Of course everyone of these you quoted are either
members of PETA, or some other cult group,, they came to their
conclusions, "then", they looked for evidence to match their
conclusions, throwing out anything they found that did not agree.

None are respected in their fields, by their piers

I bet they totally freaked when they found out (just a few years ago)
Chimpanzees, hunt, kill, and eat meat, in the wild ? Just how do they
explain that ? Why would Chimps do that ? they have no religion to tell
them to. They also kill each other "deliberately" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The first tools man made were spear points, and knives to kill, and
"butcher" meat, and each other. There is no history of the western world
where man did not eat meat, no site where there were not tools for
killing and eating meat, let's see that's about what ? 20,000 years,,
some say 50,000 years

There is no "recorded history" when they were not both, so for at least
the past 8,000 years they have been killers, and meat eaters, do your
experts try to explain this away ? I don't think they can even if they
tried to toss out all the "written" evidence.

The theory of evolution would say any humans that were not killers,
would be killed out by those that were


Much of human history supports that too.
  #34  
Old November 15th, 2006, 06:55 PM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
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Default Tuna salad anyone? Death of a Tuna and Deathof a Whale

pearl wrote:
"Rodney Long" wrote in message ...
pearl wrote:

rant snipped

TRUTH IGNORED, AS ALWAYS WITH YOUR GROUP,, IF IT DOES NOT FIT YOUR
"BELIEFS" YOU TOSS IT OUT.


ANSWER THE QUESTION

TELL ME, WOULD YOU LET YOUR CHILD DIE, IF AN ANIMAL'S DEATH COULD SAVE
IT ??????????????????????????????????????


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Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com
  #35  
Old November 15th, 2006, 07:03 PM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
Rodney Long
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Default Tuna salad anyone? Death of a Tuna and Deathof a Whale

pearl wrote:


TELL ME, WOULD YOU LET YOUR CHILD DIE, IF AN ANIMAL'S DEATH COULD SAVE
IT ??????????????????????????????????????


Not in that position. Are you?

Sorry I missed that at the bottom



Tell us.. Will you let people
continue to die, if quitting your meat habit could save them?


Hay, what I eat has nothing to do with anyone but me, I'm not letting
anyone do anything, and I'm not keeping them from doing anything, am I
going them to force them to stop eating meat,,,, hell no , that's up to
them, but all they need to do is change their meat consumption from beef
and pork to chicken , fish, and goat. all of which is "good" for ANYONE


Do you agree to let them test drugs on animals, and kill the animals,
so your child can live ?

Would you feed your child meat, if their was not other food available ?

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com
  #36  
Old November 15th, 2006, 10:12 PM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
David H. Lipman
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Default Tuna salad anyone? Death of a Tuna and Death of a Whale

From: "Rodney Long"


|
| I see you have spent little time actually in nature,, the attacks of
| true predators rarely leads to a swift death for those being prayed on.
|
| I have heard a rabbit scream for 10 min. while a coyote ran off with it
| kicking in his mouth, to take it "alive and hurt" to it's pups to teach
| them how to kill.
|
| Some of the big cats can kill quickly, when attacking smaller game. I
| recently watched a pride of lions kill a water buffalo on the nature
| channel, it took 45 min , some of the pride started feeding before the
| animal had even died.
|
| You live in a delusional world,, you need a burger

Rodney:

Please stop feeding this PITA PETA Troll.

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  #37  
Old November 16th, 2006, 12:54 AM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
pearl
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Default Tuna salad anyone? Death of a Tuna and Death of a Whale

"Rodney Long" wrote in message ...
pearl wrote:


TELL ME, WOULD YOU LET YOUR CHILD DIE, IF AN ANIMAL'S DEATH COULD SAVE
IT ??????????????????????????????????????


Not in that position. Are you?

Sorry I missed that at the bottom



Tell us.. Will you let people
continue to die, if quitting your meat habit could save them?


Hay, what I eat has nothing to do with anyone but me,


Aren't you forgetting about the animals? Don't they count?

I'm not letting
anyone do anything, and I'm not keeping them from doing anything, am I
going them to force them to stop eating meat,,,, hell no , that's up to
them, but all they need to do is change their meat consumption from beef
and pork to chicken , fish, and goat. all of which is "good" for ANYONE


You appear to be very keen on promoting it, ignoring studies.

Do you agree to let them test drugs on animals, and kill the animals,
so your child can live ?


Absolutely not.

"I cannot name one single case in which experiments on
animals may have led to a useful result."
Dr med. Philippe Grin, G.P., Video Interview with CIVIS,
July 1 1986.

"I am of the opinion that all experiments on animals should
be abolished because they only lead us to error."
Dr Marie-Louise Griboval, April 1987. Hans Ruesch, One
Thousand Doctors (and many more) Against Vivisection.

"As a physician, I am definitely opposed to animal experiments.
They are totally useless, they don't contribute in any way to
progress of medicine."
Dr med. Jurg Kym, Physicians Have the Word, ATRA,
December 1986. Hans Ruesch, One Thousand Doctors (and
many more) Against Vivisection.

"My own conviction is that the study of human physiology
by way of experiments on animals is the most grotesque and
fantastic error ever committed in the whole range of human
intellectual activity."
Dr G. F. Walker, Medical World, December 1933.

http://www.health.org.nz/foreartl.html
http://www.health.org.nz/contents.html

Adverse reactions to pharmaceutical drugs are -at least-
the fourth leading cause of death in the West. Surprise?

Good work.

'Deaths per year (US) 6
-------------------------------------------------------
heart disease 709,894
cancer 551,833
stroke 166,028
diabetes 68,662
high blood pressure 17,964
------------------------------------------------------
...
Number of Americans Living with Diet- and
Inactivity-Related Diseases
-------------------------------------------------------
Seriously Overweight/Obese9 113,360,000
High Blood Pressure9 50,000,000
Diabetes10 15,700,000
Coronary Heart Disease9 12,600,000
Osteoporosis7 10,000,000
Cancer11 8,900,000
Stroke9 4,600,000
-------------------------------------------------------
...'
http://www.cspinet.org/nutritionpoli...on_policy.html

"Isn't man an amazing animal? He kills wildlife - birds,
kangaroos, deer, all kinds of cats, coyotes, beavers,
groundhogs, mice, foxes, and dingoes - by the millions in
order to protect his domestic animals and their feed. Then
he kills domestic animals by the billions and eats them.
This in turn kills man by the millions, because eating all
those animals leads to degenerative and fatal health
conditions like heart disease, kidney disease, and cancer.
So then man tortures and kills millions more animals to
look for cures for these diseases. .."...
C. David Coats (from the preface of his book: Old
MacDonald's Factory Farm)
.... - which in turn injure and kill man by the million.

Would you feed your child meat, if their was not other food available ?


Put another way.. If eating animal flesh was necessary for
good health or survival we'd not be having this discussion.




  #38  
Old November 16th, 2006, 01:06 AM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
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"pearl" wrote in message ...
"Rodney Long" wrote in message ...

..
I'm not letting
anyone do anything, and I'm not keeping them from doing anything, am I
going them to force them to stop eating meat,,,, hell no , that's up to
them, but all they need to do is change their meat consumption from beef
and pork to chicken , fish, and goat. all of which is "good" for ANYONE


'There is a relationship between animal protein and heart disease.
For example, plasma apolioprotein B is positively associated with
animal-protein intake and inversely associated (lowered) with
vegetable-protein intake (e.g., legumes and greens). Apolioprotein B
levels correlate strongly with coronary heart disease.1 Unknown to
many is that animal proteins have a significant effect on raising
cholesterol levels as well, while plant protein lowers it.2

Scientific studies provide evidence that many animal protein's effect
on blood cholesterol may be significant. This is one of the reasons
those switching to a low fat-diet do no experience the cholesterol
lowering they expect unless they also remove the low-fat animal
products as well. Surprising to most people is that yes, even low-fat
dairy and skinless white-meat chicken raise cholesterol. I see this
regularly in my practice. Many individuals do not see the dramatic
drop in cholesterol levels unless they go all the way by cutting all
animal proteins from their diet.
...
Red met is not the only problem. The consumption of chicken and
fish is also linked to colon cancer. A large recent study examined the
eating habits of 32,000 adults for six years and then watched the
incidence of cancer for these subjects over the next six years. Those
who avoided red meat but at white meat regularly had a more than
300 percent increase in colon cancer incidence.3 The same study
showed that eating beans, peas, or lentils, at least twice a week was
associated with a 50 percent lower risk than never eating these foods.

Chicken has about the same amount of cholesterol as beef, and the
production of those potent cancer-causing compounds called
heterocyclic amines (HCAs) are even more concentrated in grilled
chicken than in beef.4 Another recent study from New Zealand
that investigated heterocyclic amines in meat, fish, and chicken
found the greatest contributor of HCAs to cancer risk was chicken.5
Likewise, studies indicated that chicken is almost as dangerous as
red meat for the heart. Regarding cholesterol, there is no advantage
to eating lean white instead of lean red meat.6
....'
http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives...onnection.html


  #39  
Old November 16th, 2006, 01:33 AM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
Rodney Long
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David H. Lipman wrote:
From: "Rodney Long"


|
| I see you have spent little time actually in nature,, the attacks of
| true predators rarely leads to a swift death for those being prayed on.
|
| I have heard a rabbit scream for 10 min. while a coyote ran off with it
| kicking in his mouth, to take it "alive and hurt" to it's pups to teach
| them how to kill.
|
| Some of the big cats can kill quickly, when attacking smaller game. I
| recently watched a pride of lions kill a water buffalo on the nature
| channel, it took 45 min , some of the pride started feeding before the
| animal had even died.
|
| You live in a delusional world,, you need a burger

Rodney:

Please stop feeding this PITA PETA Troll.


Dang I'm having so much fun,, Ok I know it's a waste of time,, still fun
:-)

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Mojo SpecTastic "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread,
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, and the EZKnot
http://www.ezknot.com
  #40  
Old November 16th, 2006, 01:41 AM posted to alt.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,rec.outdoors.fishing
David H. Lipman
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Default Tuna salad anyone? Death of a Tuna and Death of a Whale

From: "Rodney Long"



Rodney:

Please stop feeding this PITA PETA Troll.

| Dang I'm having so much fun,, Ok I know it's a waste of time,, still fun
| :-)
|


:-)

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