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Are there any fish worth while taking close inshore???????
I have fished most of my life in New Zealand and made the move over to
Australia earlier this year. Now that we are here we have found that to our dismay, the fishing is bad on a good day and even worse on a bad day. Most of our fishing is from our tinnie or surfcasting. We do not venture more than a couple of km off shore as the tinnie is too small. Our standards of what is good/bad are based on our New Zealand experience so maybe we have to refine what our standards are. In New Zealand, we could go 5 minutes from home and catch snapper, trevally, etc and home was near the Waitemata Harbour in Auckland, a city of 1.1 million people. We caught a 5kg+ snapper 2 minutes from the Auckland Harbour bridge after work one evening. We could most days go out and bring home up to 15 good sized fish - all 1kg or over with no problems at all and using our old heavy hand lines with 40lb line or old fashioned broom stick rods. Everywhere we fished in the upper half of the North Island was productive and it was a real bad day if we came home with nothing and was a rarity. Now it is a rarity to being home a fish and we have never bought home enough for a decent feed. However now we live on Bribie Island and have fished all around Bribie, Tin Can Bay, Yamba, Byron Bay. Port Phillip bay in Melbourne, off the beaches in WA and at Prot Douglas (caught a good sized trevally here). We do catch fish but in general they are baby fish. We have caught Tailor, Dart, Flatties, Whiting, Snapper, Bream, Trevally, etc but are lucky to get a legal sized fish. We are now using light as lines from new high tech rods or hand lines, various baits incl worms, mullet, squid, WA white bait, lures, jigs, etc. When out fishing, we watch the other fishers and they are all having the same luck (or lack of luck) as we get. We actually seem to do better than most but as I said earlier, we only catch baby fish. I believe that the problem is over fishing by the commercial guys and lack of quotas by the government. I am surprised to see such small fish in the fish shops, well and truly under size but being sold in the shops anyway. That is no way to conserve stocks. The fishermen are all moaning about loosing jobs when fishing regulations are tightened - well it all happened in New Zealand 20 years ago, no-one died, they found new jobs and now there is plenty of fish for everyone including snapper for me from New Zealand in our local Woolies on Bribie Is. I spoke to a crayfisherman in WA recently and he said that there are 500 cray boats between Freemantle and Geraldton. The cray season is 7 months long (from memory) and the average catch per day is around 500kg - work that one out - approx 50,000 tones of cray per annum from a small part of the coastline. The crays they are selling cheap as over there are smaller than some prawns that I have seem in Asia and are definitely too small to be legal in New Zealand. In other words, it seems to me that the fishermen are raping and pillaging the seas of everything including the breeding stocks and juveniles - end result - no fish. That is my moan for this year and we love Australia, it is a great place to live and the fishing is the only disappointment. Any comments?? Anyone know where to catch real fish not too far off shore or from a beach within 4 hours drive of Brisbane and are willing to share the secret???? Steve Subritzky Bribie Island Queensland Australia |
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Are there any fish worth while taking close inshore???????
Sorry to hear the fishing is not good up north as I am heading that way in 5
weeks to drop a line or two into the water in your area. Lushy Rye Victoria "Steve" wrote in message ... I have fished most of my life in New Zealand and made the move over to Australia earlier this year. Now that we are here we have found that to our dismay, the fishing is bad on a good day and even worse on a bad day. Most of our fishing is from our tinnie or surfcasting. We do not venture more than a couple of km off shore as the tinnie is too small. Our standards of what is good/bad are based on our New Zealand experience so maybe we have to refine what our standards are. In New Zealand, we could go 5 minutes from home and catch snapper, trevally, etc and home was near the Waitemata Harbour in Auckland, a city of 1.1 million people. We caught a 5kg+ snapper 2 minutes from the Auckland Harbour bridge after work one evening. We could most days go out and bring home up to 15 good sized fish - all 1kg or over with no problems at all and using our old heavy hand lines with 40lb line or old fashioned broom stick rods. Everywhere we fished in the upper half of the North Island was productive and it was a real bad day if we came home with nothing and was a rarity. Now it is a rarity to being home a fish and we have never bought home enough for a decent feed. However now we live on Bribie Island and have fished all around Bribie, Tin Can Bay, Yamba, Byron Bay. Port Phillip bay in Melbourne, off the beaches in WA and at Prot Douglas (caught a good sized trevally here). We do catch fish but in general they are baby fish. We have caught Tailor, Dart, Flatties, Whiting, Snapper, Bream, Trevally, etc but are lucky to get a legal sized fish. We are now using light as lines from new high tech rods or hand lines, various baits incl worms, mullet, squid, WA white bait, lures, jigs, etc. When out fishing, we watch the other fishers and they are all having the same luck (or lack of luck) as we get. We actually seem to do better than most but as I said earlier, we only catch baby fish. I believe that the problem is over fishing by the commercial guys and lack of quotas by the government. I am surprised to see such small fish in the fish shops, well and truly under size but being sold in the shops anyway. That is no way to conserve stocks. The fishermen are all moaning about loosing jobs when fishing regulations are tightened - well it all happened in New Zealand 20 years ago, no-one died, they found new jobs and now there is plenty of fish for everyone including snapper for me from New Zealand in our local Woolies on Bribie Is. I spoke to a crayfisherman in WA recently and he said that there are 500 cray boats between Freemantle and Geraldton. The cray season is 7 months long (from memory) and the average catch per day is around 500kg - work that one out - approx 50,000 tones of cray per annum from a small part of the coastline. The crays they are selling cheap as over there are smaller than some prawns that I have seem in Asia and are definitely too small to be legal in New Zealand. In other words, it seems to me that the fishermen are raping and pillaging the seas of everything including the breeding stocks and juveniles - end result - no fish. That is my moan for this year and we love Australia, it is a great place to live and the fishing is the only disappointment. Any comments?? Anyone know where to catch real fish not too far off shore or from a beach within 4 hours drive of Brisbane and are willing to share the secret???? Steve Subritzky Bribie Island Queensland Australia |
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Are there any fish worth while taking close inshore???????
"Steve" wrote in message ... I have fished most of my life in New Zealand and made the move over to Australia earlier this year. Now that we are here we have found that to our dismay, the fishing is bad on a good day and even worse on a bad day. Most of our fishing is from our tinnie or surfcasting. We do not venture more than a couple of km off shore as the tinnie is too small. Our standards of what is good/bad are based on our New Zealand experience so maybe we have to refine what our standards are. G'day Steve. Unfortunately it's the same scenario up here in and around Cairns Nth Queensland. The joint has simply had the guts netted out of it over the years, and now all you catch are very small fish if any at all. There are also way to many pro fishing guides and reef charter fishing boats, not to mention the bloody live coral trout trade that is here. But at last I think the DPI have finally seen the light and are doing something about it. Things might be looking better for us little fishoe's in a few years time. -- Steve Paris L/S Tropical Cairns Nth Queensland Australia. |
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Are there any fish worth while taking close inshore???????
Just joined Sunfish who look after the interests of recreational anglers in
QLD. Apparently for Bribie Is and Pumicestone passage, the commercial guys are taking just about any fish entering or leaving the passage but worse still, they have raped and pillaged the breeding grounds at the entrance to the passage. All the breeding stock and baby fish have been tzaken by the commercial guys so there is not much left. The commercial guys admit that 75% of the fish that they take now in their nets are mullet which has little commercial value when compared with other fish because that is all that is left. They are getting worried. This seems to be same all over QLD. Sunfish had a meeting on Bribie Is last week and over a 100 locals turned up which shows the concern that the locals have. A local commercial guy was lucky to get out of the meeting alive. Anyway Sunfish is onto to it and if they can convince government to close some areas to commercial guys (the breeding areas), we should see fish coming back. The dollars bought into the economy by recreational fishers far outweigh the dollars bought by commercial fishers. There are Huge industries in boats, tackle, bait, accommodation, etc that are all affected by no fish. Following is Sunfish's web site but it is a bit light on detail. However their magazine is great. http://www.sunfishqueensland.org/ Steve Subritzky Bribie Island Queensland Australia "Steve" wrote in message ... I have fished most of my life in New Zealand and made the move over to Australia earlier this year. Now that we are here we have found that to our dismay, the fishing is bad on a good day and even worse on a bad day. Most of our fishing is from our tinnie or surfcasting. We do not venture more than a couple of km off shore as the tinnie is too small. Our standards of what is good/bad are based on our New Zealand experience so maybe we have to refine what our standards are. In New Zealand, we could go 5 minutes from home and catch snapper, trevally, etc and home was near the Waitemata Harbour in Auckland, a city of 1.1 million people. We caught a 5kg+ snapper 2 minutes from the Auckland Harbour bridge after work one evening. We could most days go out and bring home up to 15 good sized fish - all 1kg or over with no problems at all and using our old heavy hand lines with 40lb line or old fashioned broom stick rods. Everywhere we fished in the upper half of the North Island was productive and it was a real bad day if we came home with nothing and was a rarity. Now it is a rarity to being home a fish and we have never bought home enough for a decent feed. However now we live on Bribie Island and have fished all around Bribie, Tin Can Bay, Yamba, Byron Bay. Port Phillip bay in Melbourne, off the beaches in WA and at Prot Douglas (caught a good sized trevally here). We do catch fish but in general they are baby fish. We have caught Tailor, Dart, Flatties, Whiting, Snapper, Bream, Trevally, etc but are lucky to get a legal sized fish. We are now using light as lines from new high tech rods or hand lines, various baits incl worms, mullet, squid, WA white bait, lures, jigs, etc. When out fishing, we watch the other fishers and they are all having the same luck (or lack of luck) as we get. We actually seem to do better than most but as I said earlier, we only catch baby fish. I believe that the problem is over fishing by the commercial guys and lack of quotas by the government. I am surprised to see such small fish in the fish shops, well and truly under size but being sold in the shops anyway. That is no way to conserve stocks. The fishermen are all moaning about loosing jobs when fishing regulations are tightened - well it all happened in New Zealand 20 years ago, no-one died, they found new jobs and now there is plenty of fish for everyone including snapper for me from New Zealand in our local Woolies on Bribie Is. I spoke to a crayfisherman in WA recently and he said that there are 500 cray boats between Freemantle and Geraldton. The cray season is 7 months long (from memory) and the average catch per day is around 500kg - work that one out - approx 50,000 tones of cray per annum from a small part of the coastline. The crays they are selling cheap as over there are smaller than some prawns that I have seem in Asia and are definitely too small to be legal in New Zealand. In other words, it seems to me that the fishermen are raping and pillaging the seas of everything including the breeding stocks and juveniles - end result - no fish. That is my moan for this year and we love Australia, it is a great place to live and the fishing is the only disappointment. Any comments?? Anyone know where to catch real fish not too far off shore or from a beach within 4 hours drive of Brisbane and are willing to share the secret???? Steve Subritzky Bribie Island Queensland Australia |
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Are there any fish worth while taking close inshore???????
the only fish you catch here are the ones that can get through the nets.
John "Steve" wrote in message ... I have fished most of my life in New Zealand and made the move over to Australia earlier this year. Now that we are here we have found that to our dismay, the fishing is bad on a good day and even worse on a bad day. Most of our fishing is from our tinnie or surfcasting. We do not venture more than a couple of km off shore as the tinnie is too small. Our standards of what is good/bad are based on our New Zealand experience so maybe we have to refine what our standards are. In New Zealand, we could go 5 minutes from home and catch snapper, trevally, etc and home was near the Waitemata Harbour in Auckland, a city of 1.1 million people. We caught a 5kg+ snapper 2 minutes from the Auckland Harbour bridge after work one evening. We could most days go out and bring home up to 15 good sized fish - all 1kg or over with no problems at all and using our old heavy hand lines with 40lb line or old fashioned broom stick rods. Everywhere we fished in the upper half of the North Island was productive and it was a real bad day if we came home with nothing and was a rarity. Now it is a rarity to being home a fish and we have never bought home enough for a decent feed. However now we live on Bribie Island and have fished all around Bribie, Tin Can Bay, Yamba, Byron Bay. Port Phillip bay in Melbourne, off the beaches in WA and at Prot Douglas (caught a good sized trevally here). We do catch fish but in general they are baby fish. We have caught Tailor, Dart, Flatties, Whiting, Snapper, Bream, Trevally, etc but are lucky to get a legal sized fish. We are now using light as lines from new high tech rods or hand lines, various baits incl worms, mullet, squid, WA white bait, lures, jigs, etc. When out fishing, we watch the other fishers and they are all having the same luck (or lack of luck) as we get. We actually seem to do better than most but as I said earlier, we only catch baby fish. I believe that the problem is over fishing by the commercial guys and lack of quotas by the government. I am surprised to see such small fish in the fish shops, well and truly under size but being sold in the shops anyway. That is no way to conserve stocks. The fishermen are all moaning about loosing jobs when fishing regulations are tightened - well it all happened in New Zealand 20 years ago, no-one died, they found new jobs and now there is plenty of fish for everyone including snapper for me from New Zealand in our local Woolies on Bribie Is. I spoke to a crayfisherman in WA recently and he said that there are 500 cray boats between Freemantle and Geraldton. The cray season is 7 months long (from memory) and the average catch per day is around 500kg - work that one out - approx 50,000 tones of cray per annum from a small part of the coastline. The crays they are selling cheap as over there are smaller than some prawns that I have seem in Asia and are definitely too small to be legal in New Zealand. In other words, it seems to me that the fishermen are raping and pillaging the seas of everything including the breeding stocks and juveniles - end result - no fish. That is my moan for this year and we love Australia, it is a great place to live and the fishing is the only disappointment. Any comments?? Anyone know where to catch real fish not too far off shore or from a beach within 4 hours drive of Brisbane and are willing to share the secret???? Steve Subritzky Bribie Island Queensland Australia |
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