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To wing or not to wing ...
that is the question.
I've almost convinced myself that mayfly dun imitations don't really need wings. I say almost because my evidence is purely anecdotal. A proper experiment is nigh on impossible to conduct and besides who'd want to waste the fishing time ? I've tied them up both ways, with wings and without and so far as I can tell the catch rate is about the same. Anybody want to convince me that I should spend the extra few minutes per fly to tie in wings ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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To wing or not to wing ...
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... that is the question. I've almost convinced myself that mayfly dun imitations don't really need wings. I say almost because my evidence is purely anecdotal. A proper experiment is nigh on impossible to conduct and besides who'd want to waste the fishing time ? I've tied them up both ways, with wings and without and so far as I can tell the catch rate is about the same. Anybody want to convince me that I should spend the extra few minutes per fly to tie in wings ? my take on this.....wings are frequently of no imitative use on standard, hackled mayfly imitations. The hackle serves as an impressionistic wing, whenever a full circle hackle is used. On SOME flies, a dark, prominent wing seems to be a needed addition. Examples here in the East would be the later BWOs, some of the sulfurs(I am thinking especially of the Rotundas on Big Fishing Creek which have very dark wings). Now, in these cases, I am talking about necessity for imitative purposes. The other purpose of a standard wing is for proper cocking of the fly, and here, there may be some debate. Now, when you veer away from hackled designs, the wing is often integral to the design, so I figure you weren't referring to those types. Tom |
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To wing or not to wing ...
"Tom Littleton" wrote in
news:tMhmk.279$EL2.192@trnddc01: Now, when you veer away from hackled designs, the wing is often integral to the design, so I figure you weren't referring to those types. Tom What percentage of the flies you fish these days, Tom, are traditionally hackled?? For me, it seems to be less and less every year. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
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To wing or not to wing ...
"Scott Seidman" wrote in message . 1.4... What percentage of the flies you fish these days, Tom, are traditionally hackled?? For me, it seems to be less and less every year. Interestingly, I just had this discussion recently on another board.....I still probably fish Catskill Dries for about half of my surface angling during mayfly hatches. No other fly can be made to move along the surface like a hackled fly, and mayfly duns DO move....frequently, on the streams I fish, the movement is clearly the trigger for the waiting trout. CDC is in vogue(sort of humorous, I first read about this 'hot' material back in 1978), but my experience indicates a need for mayfly imitations at the subsurface, in-the-film, and high floating levels. Tom |
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"Tom Littleton" wrote in
news:r6imk.300$_H1.279@trnddc05: "Scott Seidman" wrote in message . 1.4... What percentage of the flies you fish these days, Tom, are traditionally hackled?? For me, it seems to be less and less every year. Interestingly, I just had this discussion recently on another board.....I still probably fish Catskill Dries for about half of my surface angling during mayfly hatches. No other fly can be made to move along the surface like a hackled fly, and mayfly duns DO move....frequently, on the streams I fish, the movement is clearly the trigger for the waiting trout. CDC is in vogue(sort of humorous, I first read about this 'hot' material back in 1978), but my experience indicates a need for mayfly imitations at the subsurface, in-the-film, and high floating levels. Tom I tie and use in a variety of styles, keeping how the fly sits on the film in mind. When things aren't working so well, I'll change these options. I used to go from a Catskill tie to something that sits lower on the water, these days I tend to reverse that, and some of the low sitting flies sit so well that I never get around to the high-sitting flies (though, in fairness, I don't fish particularly fast or rough water). Our local sulphur is a Catskill tie, with the bottom hackles trimmed off. I'll often put these into the fly box intact, and trim them on the water if I'm in the mood. -- Scott Reverse name to reply |
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To wing or not to wing ...
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
that is the question. I've almost convinced myself that mayfly dun imitations don't really need wings. I say almost because my evidence is purely anecdotal. A proper experiment is nigh on impossible to conduct and besides who'd want to waste the fishing time ? I've tied them up both ways, with wings and without and so far as I can tell the catch rate is about the same. Anybody want to convince me that I should spend the extra few minutes per fly to tie in wings ? I find wings can add some needed visibility for the angler, especially when there is lots of glare. I like thorax patterns as these are easy to tie. I don't think the fish really care. Tim Lysyk |
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To wing or not to wing ...
I've tied them up both ways, with wings and without and
so far as I can tell the catch rate is about the same. Vince Marinaro emphasized the importance of wings, but George Harvey said they make no difference. Your choice. vince |
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To wing or not to wing ...
On Aug 6, 2:58 pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Scott Seidman" wrote in message . 1.4... What percentage of the flies you fish these days, Tom, are traditionally hackled?? For me, it seems to be less and less every year. Interestingly, I just had this discussion recently on another board.....I still probably fish Catskill Dries for about half of my surface angling during mayfly hatches. No other fly can be made to move along the surface like a hackled fly, and mayfly duns DO move....frequently, on the streams I fish, the movement is clearly the trigger for the waiting trout. CDC is in vogue(sort of humorous, I first read about this 'hot' material back in 1978), but my experience indicates a need for mayfly imitations at the subsurface, in-the-film, and high floating levels. Tom Interesting that you mention mayfly hatches. I have just written an article in my a href-http://www.troutlures.infotrout lures /a blog talking about two guys who used grasshoppers as trout lures in quite an interesting way, |
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