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Old February 23rd, 2011, 12:37 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
flebow[_2_]
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Default Montana HB309 -limiting public access to rivers

From TU Flathead Chapter
:
Good Afternoon TU members and friends,

The Montana House of Representatives recently passed HB 309, a bill
that would, if passed through the Montana legislature, limit access to
many Montana rivers for not only those who fish, but also for everyday
Montanans who recreate on these rivers. We have an opportunity to stop
this bill!

Next Thursday, March 3rd Montana TU will RALLY to oppose HB 309 at
2:00 p.m. at the Old Supreme Court Chambers in Helena’s State Capitol
building. This bill describes many stream channels throughout the
state as “ditches,” essentially privatizing many of the waters that
are now public. The Montana House passed the bill, and the Senate
Agriculture Committee is scheduled to hear public comments at 3:00
Thurs., March 3rd. We need a BIG TURNOUT, so please spread the word,
join us at the Capitol next Thursday, and bring a friend! Watch for an
Action Alert from Montana TU within the next 24 hours…

If you can't make it, please contact as many Senators as possible
before the committee meets next week.


Again, HB-309 is scheduled for a hearing in the Senate, Agriculture,
Livestock and Irrigation committee next Thursday March 3. These guys
need to hear from us if we want to continue to have access to fishing
streams in Montana. The legislature’s online message form makes it
simple to send a message to a legislator or to a committee. Please use
it!



Thanks for supporting continued public access to Montana's many rivers
and streams!

Good Afternoon Flathead Valley TU members and friends,

The Montana House of Representatives recently passed HB 309, a bill
that would, if passed through the Montana legislature, limit access to
many Montana rivers for not only those who fish, but also for everyday
Montanans who recreate on these rivers. We have an opportunity to stop
this bill!

Next Thursday, March 3rd Montana TU will RALLY to oppose HB 309 at
2:00 p.m. at the Old Supreme Court Chambers in Helena’s State Capitol
building. This bill describes many stream channels throughout the
state as “ditches,” essentially privatizing many of the waters that
are now public. The Montana House passed the bill, and the Senate
Agriculture Committee is scheduled to hear public comments at 3:00
Thurs., March 3rd. We need a BIG TURNOUT, so please spread the word,
join us at the Capitol next Thursday, and bring a friend! Watch for an
Action Alert from Montana TU within the next 24 hours…

If you can't make it, please contact as many Senators as possible
before the committee meets next week.


Again, HB-309 is scheduled for a hearing in the Senate, Agriculture,
Livestock and Irrigation committee next Thursday March 3. These guys
need to hear from us if we want to continue to have access to fishing
streams in Montana. The legislature’s online message form makes it
simple to send a message to a legislator or to a committee. Please use
it!



Thanks for supporting continued public access to Montana's many rivers
and streams!

Good Afternoon Flathead Valley TU members and friends,

The Montana House of Representatives recently passed HB 309, a bill
that would, if passed through the Montana legislature, limit access to
many Montana rivers for not only those who fish, but also for everyday
Montanans who recreate on these rivers. We have an opportunity to stop
this bill!

Next Thursday, March 3rd Montana TU will RALLY to oppose HB 309 at
2:00 p.m. at the Old Supreme Court Chambers in Helena’s State Capitol
building. This bill describes many stream channels throughout the
state as “ditches,” essentially privatizing many of the waters that
are now public. The Montana House passed the bill, and the Senate
Agriculture Committee is scheduled to hear public comments at 3:00
Thurs., March 3rd. We need a BIG TURNOUT, so please spread the word,
join us at the Capitol next Thursday, and bring a friend! Watch for an
Action Alert from Montana TU within the next 24 hours…

If you can't make it, please contact as many Senators as possible
before the committee meets next week.


Again, HB-309 is scheduled for a hearing in the Senate, Agriculture,
Livestock and Irrigation committee next Thursday March 3. These guys
need to hear from us if we want to continue to have access to fishing
streams in Montana. The legislature’s online message form makes it
simple to send a message to a legislator or to a committee. Please use
it!



Thanks for supporting continued public access to Montana's many rivers
and streams!





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Old February 23rd, 2011, 04:52 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Larry L[_2_]
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Default Montana HB309 -limiting public access to rivers

Thank You, Fred

Thank You, Fred

Thank You, Fred

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Old February 24th, 2011, 01:32 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Montana HB309 -limiting public access to rivers

On Feb 23, 9:52*am, Larry L wrote:
Thank You, Fred

Thank You, Fred

Thank You, Fred


In case there was any doubt, this bill is a Republican effort,
introduced by Jeffrey Wellburn (R-Dillon) and supported overwhelmingly
by Republicans.
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Old February 24th, 2011, 01:56 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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Default Montana HB309 -limiting public access to rivers

On Feb 23, 7:32*pm, " wrote:
On Feb 23, 9:52*am, Larry L wrote:

Thank You, Fred


Thank You, Fred


Thank You, Fred


In case there was any doubt, this bill is a Republican effort,
introduced by Jeffrey Wellburn (R-Dillon) and supported overwhelmingly
by Republicans.


And speaking of anti-democratic institutions.....

Is it just me?.....or has anyone else noticed some very interesting
goings on going on in various portions of the world in the past few
weeks?

Tunis.....Cairo.....Sana‘a.....Manama.....Tobruk.. ........Madison.

giles
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Old February 25th, 2011, 08:05 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Jonathan Cook
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Default Montana HB309 -limiting public access to rivers

On Feb 23, 6:56*pm, Giles wrote:
In case there was any doubt, this bill is a Republican effort,
introduced by Jeffrey Wellburn (R-Dillon) and supported overwhelmingly
by Republicans.


Fred, what has the Democratic governor of MT said? Will he veto this?

And speaking of anti-democratic institutions.....

Tunis.....Cairo.....Sana‘a.....Manama.....Tobruk.. ........Madison.


I think 2011 will turn out to be a historic year in those farther
places, but Madison....I must assume you mean the teachers' union when
you refer to anti-democratic institutions.

Jon.
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Old February 25th, 2011, 10:31 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Tom Littleton
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Default Montana HB309 -limiting public access to rivers

On 2/25/2011 3:05 PM, Jonathan Cook wrote:

I think 2011 will turn out to be a historic year in those farther
places, but Madison....I must assume you mean the teachers' union when
you refer to anti-democratic institutions.

Jon.


care to explain this one, Jon? Because, I sort of like my teachers
having some bargaining power. Just because the rest of the nation got
gulled into going non-union, and then watching their wages stagnate and
benefits get stolen so the folks at the top of the scale can enrich
themselves, doesn't make the unions the bad guys for resisting the trend.
Tom

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Old February 25th, 2011, 11:04 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Jonathan Cook
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Default Montana HB309 -limiting public access to rivers

On Feb 25, 3:31*pm, Tom Littleton wrote:
On 2/25/2011 3:05 PM, Jonathan Cook wrote:

places, but Madison....I must assume you mean the teachers' union when
you refer to anti-democratic institutions.


care to explain this one, Jon? Because, I sort of like my teachers
having some bargaining power. Just because the rest of the nation got


Private sector unions offer a balance against the power of
corporations. What do public sector unions balance? The power of those
governing, which in our representative democratic republic is
approximately the power of the people. So public sector unions are
anti-democratic. I agree that our society is in a sad state when it
comes to private sector unions, it almost cries out for revolutionary
thinking (and acting); yet public sector unions are really a symptom
of an underlying disfunction. They should not be needed. And they can
become too powerful. If anyone right now needs a public sector union
it is not the teachers, it is the soldiers.

Jon.
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Old February 26th, 2011, 11:42 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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Default Montana HB309 -limiting public access to rivers

On Feb 25, 2:05*pm, Jonathan Cook wrote:
On Feb 23, 6:56*pm, Giles wrote:

In case there was any doubt, this bill is a Republican effort,
introduced by Jeffrey Wellburn (R-Dillon) and supported overwhelmingly
by Republicans.


Fred, what has the Democratic governor of MT said? Will he veto this?

And speaking of anti-democratic institutions.....


Tunis.....Cairo.....Sana‘a.....Manama.....Tobruk.. ........Madison.


I think 2011 will turn out to be a historic year in those farther
places, but Madison....I must assume you mean the teachers' union when
you refer to anti-democratic institutions.

Jon.


No, that is not what you must assume.

You're a liar.

But then, you already knew that.

g.
well, at least we can all be greatful that some people are not in the
teaching professions.
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Old February 26th, 2011, 11:43 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Giles
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Default Montana HB309 -limiting public access to rivers

On Feb 25, 5:04*pm, Jonathan Cook wrote:
On Feb 25, 3:31*pm, Tom Littleton wrote:

On 2/25/2011 3:05 PM, Jonathan Cook wrote:


places, but Madison....I must assume you mean the teachers' union when
you refer to anti-democratic institutions.


care to explain this one, Jon? Because, I sort of like my teachers
having some bargaining power. Just because the rest of the nation got


Private sector unions offer a balance against the power of
corporations. What do public sector unions balance? The power of those
governing, which in our representative democratic republic is
approximately the power of the people. So public sector unions are
anti-democratic. I agree that our society is in a sad state when it
comes to private sector unions, it almost cries out for revolutionary
thinking (and acting); yet public sector unions are really a symptom
of an underlying disfunction. They should not be needed. And they can
become too powerful. If anyone right now needs a public sector union
it is not the teachers, it is the soldiers.

Jon.


moron.

g.
  #10  
Old March 2nd, 2011, 12:58 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
DavePA
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Default Montana HB309 -limiting public access to rivers

On Feb 26, 6:43*pm, Giles wrote:
On Feb 25, 5:04*pm, Jonathan Cook wrote:



On Feb 25, 3:31*pm, Tom Littleton wrote:


On 2/25/2011 3:05 PM, Jonathan Cook wrote:


places, but Madison....I must assume you mean the teachers' union when
you refer to anti-democratic institutions.


care to explain this one, Jon? Because, I sort of like my teachers
having some bargaining power. Just because the rest of the nation got


Private sector unions offer a balance against the power of
corporations. What do public sector unions balance? The power of those
governing, which in our representative democratic republic is
approximately the power of the people. So public sector unions are
anti-democratic. I agree that our society is in a sad state when it
comes to private sector unions, it almost cries out for revolutionary
thinking (and acting); yet public sector unions are really a symptom
of an underlying disfunction. They should not be needed. And they can
become too powerful. If anyone right now needs a public sector union
it is not the teachers, it is the soldiers.


Jon.


moron.

g.


This thread is nominated for the George Gherke award to irrelevance to
fly fishing..
 




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