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Used my new Baitcaster!!!
Hello all
OK, so as you may or may not remember, I was bugging the group about a bass/muskie rod awhile back. I ended up buying a 7 1/2 foot Daiwa flipping stick and a Shimano Curado 201BSF. Well, I finally got to go out and use it for real! I'll summarize my observations, etc, and then get onto the fishing story ;-) - Still having some problems with overhand casting, tends to go straight into the water. But, when I took it easy, tried to just rotate the rod around the reel, it was OK. Side hand, however, I can cast no problem, but accuracy suffers sometimes. If you saw me duff an overhand cast, you'd understand. - I was switching between throwing big muskie lures, and smaller bass lures. Big lures were anywhere from 1 - 2.5 oz, small were 1/4 - 1/2 oz, mostly 3/8 or heavier. I started with 3 brakes on, which was fine. I went down to 2 brakes, which increased distance with the muskie lures, but I found I would overrun more with the smaller lures, so I put it back to 3 and left it. - You have to babysit the line alot! I was constantly watching the spool, as, depending on the lure, would not spool up tightly. I was frequently throwing on the heavier lure and letting it run behind the boat so I could reel the line in tight again. I found this usually only with the lighter bass lures. I tend to use alot (well, almost always) topwater. The popper (my favourite), tended to be the worst for this. - It's tiring throwing big plugs all day!!! We went out on the shore at night, and I took my spinning rod (berkeley lightning rod, ML, 6.5', Daiwa Regal 2500-x). It felt so light and east to cast! So, onto the fishing. We had hard rain the first morning, but went out late morning nonetheless. We went out in full rain gear, the rain stopped once we were out on the water! Well, I went out for muskie, and found none! No worries, large and smallmouth were still biting, caught a 4lb each (large and small), plus many more good sized fish. The 4lb smallmouth put up an amazing fight, reeled him in with the new rig - he still bent that heavy rod right over! We were fishing this one small bay, I had switched to a crayfish crankbait (i.e. - no leader). Was reeling it in, it was fairly close to the boat, I thought I felt a nibble, and I just gave it a twitch, and no more lure! Stared dumbfounded at my broken line, then, my crayfish popped up on the surface, complete with about 4" of line. I'll never know! Thanks for the advice all, I'm sure I'll get used to it before long! Brian |
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Used my new Baitcaster!!!
Using a 201?....try twisting your wrist so when you cast overhand, the crank
handle points down if casting with the right hand, pointing up if with the left. This provides the same action as you're experiencing when tossing sidearm. offered Huck "John Smith" wrote in message - Still having some problems with overhand casting, tends to go straight into the water. But, when I took it easy, tried to just rotate the rod around the reel, it was OK. Side hand, however, I can cast no problem, but accuracy suffers sometimes. If you saw me duff an overhand cast, you'd understand. |
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Used my new Baitcaster!!!
I'm thinking the problem "Coppertop" is having comes from the approach to
each cast, not the direction of the rod or angle of the reel. A side arm cast, for me, is most natural and used when I'm looking to hit a specific target, usually well within reach. This approach is much smoother and under control. The over hand cast (again, for me) is used when I want to heave something way out "there", or I'm desperate and out of acceptable range. This cast starts with greater force and may be hurried. If that's the case, it's just a matter of keeping the mechanics of the cast in synch. -- Early to Bed, Early to Rise, Fish all Day, Make up Lies. Shawn "Huck Palmatier" wrote in message news:GXJeb.37069$0Z5.14948@lakeread03... Using a 201?....try twisting your wrist so when you cast overhand, the crank handle points down if casting with the right hand, pointing up if with the left. This provides the same action as you're experiencing when tossing sidearm. offered Huck "John Smith" wrote in message - Still having some problems with overhand casting, tends to go straight into the water. But, when I took it easy, tried to just rotate the rod around the reel, it was OK. Side hand, however, I can cast no problem, but accuracy suffers sometimes. If you saw me duff an overhand cast, you'd understand. |
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Used my new Baitcaster!!!
- Still having some problems with overhand casting, tends to go straight into the water. But, when I took it easy, tried to just rotate the rod around the reel, it was OK. Side hand, however, I can cast no problem, but accuracy suffers sometimes. If you saw me duff an overhand cast, you'd understand. *** Trust me, I know what you are talking about. Forget the overhand cast for now. Use the sidearm or roll cast until you get use to the new reel. You will get more accurate as time passes. - I was switching between throwing big muskie lures, and smaller bass lures. Big lures were anywhere from 1 - 2.5 oz, small were 1/4 - 1/2 oz, mostly 3/8 or heavier. I started with 3 brakes on, which was fine. I went down to 2 brakes, which increased distance with the muskie lures, but I found I would overrun more with the smaller lures, so I put it back to 3 and left it. *** Switching back and forth between heavy baits and light baits will teach you nothing, except where your breaking point is. Try to stay within a certain range (3/8~1/2oz) for awhile as you are learning. Until you get really good with a baitcaster, you'll need to do alot more adjusting betweeen throwing a smaller bait and a larger one. - You have to babysit the line alot! I was constantly watching the spool, as, depending on the lure, would not spool up tightly. I was frequently throwing on the heavier lure and letting it run behind the boat so I could reel the line in tight again. I found this usually only with the lighter bass lures. I tend to use alot (well, almost always) topwater. The popper (my favourite), tended to be the worst for this. ***You learn how to handle the line pretty quickly. When I'm throwing something that will put slack in the line as I reel, I'll lay my thumb on the spool. It may not make the line spool on tight, but it will eliminate the looping. - It's tiring throwing big plugs all day!!! We went out on the shore at night, and I took my spinning rod (berkeley lightning rod, ML, 6.5', Daiwa Regal 2500-x). It felt so light and east to cast! So, onto the fishing. We had hard rain the first morning, but went out late morning nonetheless. We went out in full rain gear, the rain stopped once we were out on the water! Well, I went out for muskie, and found none! No worries, large and smallmouth were still biting, caught a 4lb each (large and small), plus many more good sized fish. The 4lb smallmouth put up an amazing fight, reeled him in with the new rig - he still bent that heavy rod right over! We were fishing this one small bay, I had switched to a crayfish crankbait (i.e. - no leader). Was reeling it in, it was fairly close to the boat, I thought I felt a nibble, and I just gave it a twitch, and no more lure! Stared dumbfounded at my broken line, then, my crayfish popped up on the surface, complete with about 4" of line. I'll never know! Thanks for the advice all, I'm sure I'll get used to it before long! Brian |
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Used my new Baitcaster!!!
*** Switching back and forth between heavy baits and light baits will teach you nothing, except where your breaking point is. Try to stay within a certain range (3/8~1/2oz) for awhile as you are learning. Until you get really good with a baitcaster, you'll need to do alot more adjusting betweeen throwing a smaller bait and a larger one. Well, I was generally going for muskie while the other person in the boat was going for bass. I had a 10" jerkbait, 2.5oz. I'd cast that thing out (and I never had a problem with this thing, other than making me tired), the line would spool out, then - KA-SPLAT!!! I had a hard time believing that I wasn't spooking the fish with this thing. Am I supposed to cast that thing? Anyways, after awhile, I'd usually switch tot he bass lures for awhile, generally the bigger ones, but bass were biting plentiful, it was hard to resist! Thanks Brian |
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