OT- Landslide?

On Oct 14, 8:49*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Oct 14, 8:40*am, " wrote:



Where do you get this crap from?

* * - Ken

Here is a start from the Associated Press:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...ig0FgD93NT6S02

And other lynch themed "anonymous" events like the one in Oregon at
George Fox University where a cardboard figure of Obama was hung by a
noose from a tree to intimidate minority students.

I think McCain has had a few second thoughts but his approval of Karl
Rove's management of the dirty projects, and the significance of the
Palin over Lieberman decision is well known.

Dave

How come all you loonies always solemnly and darkly insist that
various things are "well known", when mostly they are figments of your
overwrought imaginations?

Painted any monkey fellatio lately?

wrote:
DaveS wrote:
At some McCain rallies the crowds have been led in chants calling for
lynching Obama and decapitating Obama.

Where do you get this crap from?

It comes from the mainstream press and it's well documented.

The McCain rallies in question were in Florida and McCain himself
was not present but represented by his attack dog Sarah Palin.

Here's an OpEd from today's _Washington Post_:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101302173.html

McCain: "He is a decent person and a person that you do not have
to be scared about as President of the United States. If I didn't
think I would be one heck of a better president I wouldn't be
running."

Older Woman: "I have read about him. He's an Arab".

McCain: "No, ma'am. No, ma'am. He's a decent, family man, citizen
that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues
and that's what this campaign is all about."

I'm actually rather happy with the character of both the candidates.
They both appear to be decent
people.

You're quoting McCain himself reacting to the backlash. McCain
himself may have once been an honorable man, and I have no reason
to doubt that he was, but he has allowed his campaign to degenerate
into very dangerous territory.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Oct 14, 9:13*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
.. McCain
himself may have once been an honorable man, and I have no reason
to doubt that he was, but he has allowed his campaign to degenerate
into very dangerous territory.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Heh heh, you ought to know about that. Have the same symptoms did you?
Or were you always dishonourable?

On Oct 14, 11:49*am, DaveS wrote:
On Oct 14, 8:40*am, " wrote:



Where do you get this crap from?

* * - Ken

Here is a start from the Associated Press:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...ig0FgD93NT6S02

And other lynch themed "anonymous" events like the one in Oregon at
George Fox University where a cardboard figure of Obama was hung by a
noose from a tree to intimidate minority students.

Come on, you think the McCain camp's strategy to win is to hang a
figure
in a noose in the middle of nowhere down in Oregon?

Even the article you reference shows McCain not inciting this stuff:

"Volunteers worked up chants from the crowd of "U.S.A." and "John
McCain, John McCain," in an apparent attempt to drown out boos and
other displays of negative energy."

"
Some of the frustration at McCain's rallies is from people who want
the candidate to go harder after Obama. In Waukesha, when a voter
begged McCain to take a more combative tone toward Obama, McCain
instead talked about the financial crisis.

"Could I just say very quickly, yes, I'll do that," McCain said. "But
I also, my friends, want to address the greatest financial challenge
of our lifetime with a positive plan for action."
"

There's always going to be people on your side which you wished
weren't.
- Ken

On Oct 14, 12:38*pm, " wrote:

There's always going to be people on your side which you wished
weren't.
* * - Ken

Ken
Just what do you think Karl Rove does for his paychecks? Write thank
you notes? Rove's mentor was Lee A****er. A****er studied Roy Marcus
Cohn.

Have you ever taken a look at the careers of these kinds of dark
figures? Maybe a little historical perspective would help. Was Lee
A****er before your time? Some of A****er's confessions at the end of
his life might give some perspective on what is happening now.

Here is a Wiki take on A****er, sanitized, but essentially correct
backround on A****er and the context and racist import of Republican
dark operations. And keep in mind, just how close A****ers's semi
legit half was to the Republican leadership.

Dave
Maybe too much Graybeard stuff here

On Oct 14, 10:13*pm, DaveS wrote:

Ken
Just what do you think Karl Rove does for his paychecks? Write thank
you notes? Rove's mentor was Lee A****er. A****er studied Roy Marcus
Cohn.

Have you ever taken a look at the careers of these kinds of dark
figures? Maybe a little historical perspective would help. Was Lee
A****er before your time? Some of A****er's confessions at the end of
his life might give some perspective on what is happening now.

Here is a Wiki take on A****er, sanitized, but essentially correct
backround on A****er and the context and racist import of Republican
dark operations. And keep in mind, just how close A****ers's semi
legit half was to the Republican leadership.

Dave
Maybe too much Graybeard stuff here

Painted him doing something nasty have you? What colour sari was he
wearing?

Watch out for the black helicopters!

On Oct 14, 3:38*pm, " wrote:
.......... (cut)
Some of the frustration at McCain's rallies is from people who want
the candidate to go harder after Obama. In Waukesha, when a voter
begged McCain to take a more combative tone toward Obama, McCain
instead talked about the financial crisis.

"Could I just say very quickly, yes, I'll do that," McCain said. "But
I also, my friends, want to address the greatest financial challenge
of our lifetime with a positive plan for action."
"

There's always going to be people on your side which you wished
weren't.
* * - Ken

... and Mccain has more than his share (not sure that this applies to
Ms. Palin, however).
Some of the fan base:

http://tinyurl.com/3vtflz

On Oct 14, 2:36*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
I'm not sure it will cause dandruff, but the idea that Rove has any freaking
thing to do with it is flat-out loony, Dave.
And I work for the other side's campaign. Where the hell do you come up with
this stuff??
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

I read widely, and listen to quite a range of interviews. Loony huh?
What do you think Rove had done for a living for the last 20 years?
The South Florida campaign has Rove written all over it, although the
trickster in charge may be one of his operatives. Martin is clearly
not the top guy. The most recent edition of Rolling Stone has a group
of articles on Rove and his operatives in past and present elections.
Dave

"DaveS" wrote in message
...
What do you think Rove had done for a living for the last 20 years?

been employed by Geo Bush, most of the time. I have no doubt dirty stuff
occurs all the time, frequently real nasty stuff from the Repubs, but seeing
Rove as some sort of dirty tricks mastermind is, as I said, loony.
Tom

On Oct 15, 2:34*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"DaveS" wrote in message

...
What do you think Rove had done for a living for the last 20 years?

been employed by Geo Bush, most of the time. I have no doubt dirty stuff
occurs all the time, frequently real nasty stuff from the Repubs, but seeing
Rove as some sort of dirty tricks mastermind is, as I said, loony.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Tom
Im not going to get all exercised on this. When you do the reading,
you might change your opinion. Just pick some sources you trust and
see what they have written on Rove's career.

Rove is considered to be one of the best ever practitioners of
political smear and sabotage. The Democrats have no one who even comes
close to Rove's dark immoral genius. So good that even Rove's proteges
are in high demand. In fact one of his masterpieces is thought to have
been the smear of John McCain in North Carolina. The Max Cleland
smear? The Valerie P. case? etc Remember?

Just remember to take back the "loony" comment down the pike.

Dave.