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  #21  
Old November 9th, 2007, 05:14 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 9 Nov, 05:10, Mike wrote:
On 9 Nov, 05:04, Dave LaCourse wrote:



On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:44:19 -0800, Mike
wrote:


Any fool, including you, can catch a spawning fish without even
trying. Put the lure in front of them and they will strike it. The
term "shooting fish in a barrel" was surely coined to describe fishing
the spawn. What's the matter, Tim, you can't catch fish the normal
way, ya gotta go after the spawners to feel macho? Jerk.


And apparently you can not read, Connor. Willi said I called Sandy a
name. I did not. The entire conversation was civil. I called *Tim*
a fool and jerk, because that is what he was in that post.


And, yeah, I don't expect an apology from you either, but I do wish
you would get the player's names correct. Try to follow the thread,
Connor, instead of trying to exact your punishment on me. d;o)


Dave


Also Willi did not say you called Sandy a name;

QUOTE

Last place I know that Sandy posted was alt.flyfishing and even there
his thread got flamed and finalized by some name calling by LaCourse.

Willi

UNQUOTE

Which is the absolute truth.

MC


So, LaCourse, you called Willi a liar, which he is not, and you owe
him an apology.

MC

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Old November 9th, 2007, 02:33 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Mike wrote in news:1194581264.075234.321940@
50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:


You can not read LaCourse, the phrase "Any fool, including
you..............." applies to anybody who fishes the spawn. You were
the only abusive person in that thread.


I suppose we should all take a moment to thank the Fates that there were no
sharp objects in the vicinity of whomever perceived himself the recipient
of such a brutal, bloodcurdling, wounding-to-the-core-of-being, stream of
invective.

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Old November 9th, 2007, 02:51 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:14:48 -0800, Mike
wrote:

So, LaCourse, you called Willi a liar, which he is not, and you owe
him an apology.


No, Willi is a liar. He probably didn't mean to lie, but he should
have gone back and read the thread before accusing me.

Of course, *you* never call *anyone* names, do you, Connor. Anyone
that disagrees with you is labeled, including those that stuck up for
you originally and then found out what an absolute nut case you are.
Go away, Mike, while you stll have a friend or two here.

And, I notice Ken is still here. d;o) How well do you take failure.
Bwwwaaaaaaahahahahaha.

Dave

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Old November 9th, 2007, 03:05 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
...
And, I notice Ken is still here. d;o) ...


Well yeah, but I'm on pins and needles worrying about the
Düsseldorf branch of the FBI.

LOL !!

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Old November 9th, 2007, 03:18 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:14:48 -0800, Mike
wrote:


So, LaCourse, you called Willi a liar, which he is not, and you owe
him an apology.



No, Willi is a liar. He probably didn't mean to lie, but he should
have gone back and read the thread before accusing me.


of one thing i am sure...of all the folks i know, willi isn't one i
would ever accuse, or even suggest, as being a liar. i'll accept and
rely on willi's statement of things. i too think you owe him an apology.


Of course, *you* never call *anyone* names, do you, Connor. Anyone
that disagrees with you is labeled, including those that stuck up for
you originally and then found out what an absolute nut case you are.
Go away, Mike, while you stll have a friend or two here.


and i think such statements ridiculous. no one has authority, or right,
to make such demands here. i say, stick around mike, you do have a
friend or two here...but, even if you didn't, you're as welcome here as
any of the rest of us...and you probably are needed here as much as
anyone else.


And, I notice Ken is still here. d;o) How well do you take failure.
Bwwwaaaaaaahahahahaha.


hmmm... and you think that a good thing because...?

jeff
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Old November 9th, 2007, 03:31 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:18:10 -0500, jeff
wrote:

of one thing i am sure...of all the folks i know, willi isn't one i
would ever accuse, or even suggest, as being a liar. i'll accept and
rely on willi's statement of things. i too think you owe him an apology.


Willi attacked me personally, Jeff, by saying I chased Sandy away from
a thread by name calling. That is not true. I did not call Sandy
anythng but Sandy, and the thread was civil. I disagreed with his
assessment of fishing fish on the spawn, but I did not chase Sandy
anywhere. In fact, if you look at the thread, he continued to post
after my post to Timbo. I did not attack Sandy in that post.

I was shocked when Willi said that, but the truth is in the thread. I
did not chase Sandy away by calling him or anyone else names.

That, unfortunately, makes Willi a liar.

Dave


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Old November 9th, 2007, 03:56 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 9 Nov, 15:31, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:18:10 -0500, jeff
wrote:

of one thing i am sure...of all the folks i know, willi isn't one i
would ever accuse, or even suggest, as being a liar. i'll accept and
rely on willi's statement of things. i too think you owe him an apology.


Willi attacked me personally, Jeff, by saying I chased Sandy away from
a thread by name calling. That is not true. I did not call Sandy
anythng but Sandy, and the thread was civil. I disagreed with his
assessment of fishing fish on the spawn, but I did not chase Sandy
anywhere. In fact, if you look at the thread, he continued to post
after my post to Timbo. I did not attack Sandy in that post.

I was shocked when Willi said that, but the truth is in the thread. I
did not chase Sandy away by calling him or anyone else names.

That, unfortunately, makes Willi a liar.

Dave


You are lying again LaCourse. he did not say anything of the sort.
Indeed he asked you nicely to calm down and be civil.

MC


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Old November 9th, 2007, 04:06 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:31:04 -0500, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:18:10 -0500, jeff
wrote:

of one thing i am sure...of all the folks i know, willi isn't one i
would ever accuse, or even suggest, as being a liar. i'll accept and
rely on willi's statement of things. i too think you owe him an apology.


Willi attacked me personally, Jeff, by saying I chased Sandy away from
a thread by name calling. That is not true. I did not call Sandy
anythng but Sandy, and the thread was civil. I disagreed with his
assessment of fishing fish on the spawn, but I did not chase Sandy
anywhere. In fact, if you look at the thread, he continued to post
after my post to Timbo. I did not attack Sandy in that post.

I was shocked when Willi said that, but the truth is in the thread. I
did not chase Sandy away by calling him or anyone else names.

That, unfortunately, makes Willi a liar.

Dave

Actually, what Willi said was, IMO, absolutely correct, and IAC, it was
not "a lie." I was curious as to what he said that led to yet another
round of goofy golf AND got Scott and jeff involved so quickly, so I
read the thread on alt.ff and reread Willi's post:

"Last place I know that Sandy posted was alt.flyfishing and even there
his thread got flamed and finalized by some name calling by LaCourse."

It is, again IMO, absolutely correct and again IAC, not "a lie."

He didn't say anyone chased anyone away and he did not say that you
called Sandy anything. He said, accurately, that you did some "name
calling" and you did call Tim "Jerk." While I'd agree with Scott that
as "name calling" goes, on ROFF or in the real world, "jerk" ain't
exactly up there with, oh, say, "Hillary supporter" or "worm-dunker,"
but it is "name calling." You know, sorta like what a 5 year-old might
say.

And you did "flame" Sandy and anyone else who chose to fish over
spawners, so again, Willi was not lying. As to "finalized," I suppose
one could argue that "Jerk." was not technically the "last word," but I
don't see anyone with a bar card taking that windmill on contingency.

Moreover, Sandy's response was a whole hell of a lot more accommodating
than, IMO, it should have or needed to be. I don't think anyone would
have thought less of him if he had told you, good-naturedly, to go ****
yourself. And on that note and just as an aside, I took your "flaming"
as generally good-natured until your reply to Tim, and while you have
may have meant it good-naturedly, I can see how others might have it
otherwise.

HTH,
R
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Old November 9th, 2007, 04:08 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 9 Nov, 15:56, Mike wrote:
On 9 Nov, 15:31, Dave LaCourse wrote:



On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:18:10 -0500, jeff
wrote:


of one thing i am sure...of all the folks i know, willi isn't one i
would ever accuse, or even suggest, as being a liar. i'll accept and
rely on willi's statement of things. i too think you owe him an apology.


Willi attacked me personally, Jeff, by saying I chased Sandy away from
a thread by name calling. That is not true. I did not call Sandy
anythng but Sandy, and the thread was civil. I disagreed with his
assessment of fishing fish on the spawn, but I did not chase Sandy
anywhere. In fact, if you look at the thread, he continued to post
after my post to Timbo. I did not attack Sandy in that post.


I was shocked when Willi said that, but the truth is in the thread. I
did not chase Sandy away by calling him or anyone else names.


That, unfortunately, makes Willi a liar.


Dave


You are lying again LaCourse. he did not say anything of the sort.
Indeed he asked you nicely to calm down and be civil.

MC


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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:48:48 -0600, Willi
wrote:


Your posts weren't always like that.


Perhaps they changed AFTER I stopped fishing the spawn. d;o) My
comments are the truth; fishing a spawn is never sport. The fish are
in an agitated state and will strike at just about anything. I
discovered this while fishing for chinooks in Canada. They were
fairly easy to hook, difficult to land. ANY spawning fish is easy to
hook.


Dave


That's not true, there are spawning fish that are "impossible" to
catch
while spawning without snagging them.

but that wasn't my point.

Like I said in my last post, I knew you would rationalize all your
negative posts, but take the time and read your last 100 and see what
you think.

Willi

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On Oct 23, 1:26 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:23:44 -0000, Halfordian Golfer


wrote:
This kind of thinking is like feeling guilty about a wet dream. Give
me a freeking break man. It's sport when they're starving to survive
(and feeding during a hatch) but it's not sport when they're striking
defensively? You must drive yourself nuts.


Any fool, including you, can catch a spawning fish without even
trying. Put the lure in front of them and they will strike it. The
term "shooting fish in a barrel" was surely coined to describe fishing
the spawn. What's the matter, Tim, you can't catch fish the normal
way, ya gotta go after the spawners to feel macho? Jerk.


Dave


Calm down Dave. Next thing you know this place will be as
acrimonious as roff. Nobody's a jerk here, including you
me and Tim. Spawning fish can be easy to catch.
But like I pointed out earlier, I watched 3 guys (part of
a guided trip out of West Yellowstone) strip streamers over
those fish all day without a single hit.

I put on a little more weight, waited a little longer after the cast,
hand-twisted slowly, and knocked'em silly. After a few fish
(it was fun for an hour or so) I let them be.
They're over-populated there and they want you to konk'em.
So--at least in that sense--sport (or lack thereof) is irrelevant.
Fish'em if you want. Don't fish'em if you don't want.

I'm easy.

UNQUOTE


You are not going to get away with this **** on here unchallenged
again LaCourse. You failed to read or comprehend what people wrote,
you called them fools and jerks, and now you accuse someone of lying.

You are a mean stupid nasty man LaCourse, and you cause a great deal
of trouble as a result.

The only person lying here is you LaCourse.

Furthermore, the only person "punishing" you on here is yourself you
continually make yourself look stupid. I can´t "punish" anybody here,
all I can do is tell the truth.

MC


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Old November 9th, 2007, 04:23 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 9 Nov, 14:51, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:14:48 -0800, Mike
wrote:

So, LaCourse, you called Willi a liar, which he is not, and you owe
him an apology.


No, Willi is a liar. He probably didn't mean to lie, but he should
have gone back and read the thread before accusing me.

Of course, *you* never call *anyone* names, do you, Connor. Anyone
that disagrees with you is labeled, including those that stuck up for
you originally and then found out what an absolute nut case you are.
Go away, Mike, while you stll have a friend or two here.

And, I notice Ken is still here. d;o) How well do you take failure.
Bwwwaaaaaaahahahahaha.

Dave


Willi is not a liar LaCourse, you are the only one lying and
bull****ting about this.

I am not going anywhere LaCourse. I am going to challenge you every
time you lie and bull****.

MC

 




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