The Future of Fly Fishing in America ?

Lazarus Cooke wrote:
In article . net, rw
wrote:

Absolutely. I cannot figure out why people expect to get roads for
free. They're built on land. Why don't people pay for them?

They're not free. We do pay for them. Can't you read? Are you a ****ing
moron?

I'm not saying it's wrong - if that's what you want, you're free to go
for it. You can vote for socialist roads, and State Parks, and Fly
fishing, and healthcare, and school buses, and state control of
farming, at the next election if you want.

Thank you so very much for your expatriot permission.


It's preposterous to call that "selective communism."


Why?

Because it is.

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Lazarus Cooke wrote:

You pay for them through taxation. That's socialism.

Very well. It's socialism. That's what we've chosen. So what?

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Population genetics, Stevee, and you were the one who brought
it up, although you obviously didn't know it.
Ken Fortenberry



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Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
When the dawn came up like thunder

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

Guys-N-Flyz wrote:

I know what you mean, *us* losers really oughta stick together. Them
compassionate conservatives are still laughin' at *us*--hell, you can
probably here Dave LaCourse all the way across the Us.

That's the way politics works, Mark. We can either stick together and
get at least some of what we hope for, or you can make a feel-good,
narcissistic, self righteous statement of principle and get nothing.

Politics is the art of the possible.
-- Otto von Bismark --

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"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message

Taking your libertarian position to its logical conclusion, we should
privatize all our roads so they could become private toll roads.

Absolutely. I cannot figure out why people expect to get roads for
free. They're built on land. Why don't people pay for them?

Well actually we do through our gas taxes, or at least that's where they say
the monies are supposed to be going?

Mark

Lazarus

Hm........

Without a doubt, the clearest statement of what you have to say that you
have yet made in this group.

Wolfgang
keep up the good work.

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message

You pay for them through taxation. That's socialism.

If paying taxes is a form of socialism, then, most likely, every state on
the planet is that of a socialist regime.

Though I believe you are merely yankin' rw's chain--which isn't necessarily
a bad thing--the idea that taxation constitutes socialism is absurd, IMMHO.

I mean, if the monies collected from fuel taxation is used exclusively for
the construction of roads and no other general funds go to pay for road
construction and I don't purchase fuel of any kind, then I don't pay for the
construction of roads even though I may use those same roads.

Mark

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message

You pay for them through taxation. That's socialism.

If paying taxes is a form of socialism, then, most likely, every state on
the planet is that of a socialist regime.

Though I believe you are merely yankin' rw's chain--which isn't necessarily
a bad thing--the idea that taxation constitutes socialism is absurd, IMMHO.

I mean, if the monies collected from fuel taxation is used exclusively for
the construction of roads and no other general funds go to pay for road
construction and I don't purchase fuel of any kind, then I don't pay for the
construction of roads even though I may use those same roads.

Mark

"rw" wrote in message
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Politics is the art of the possible.
-- Otto von Bismark --

Oh yeah! I believe that I would have researched a bit more, before quoting
someone who disproved my point entirely.

"Internally, he was concerned about the emergence of two new parties: the
Catholic Centre Party and the Social Democratic Party. The campaign against
Catholicism that started in 1872, called Kulturkampf, was largely a failure.
He attacked the Social Democrats in two ways: the party and its
organizations were outlawed, while the working class was appeased with (very
progressive) legislation guaranteeing accident and health insurance as well
as old-age pensions.

In the elections of 1890, both the Catholic Centre and the Social Democrats
made great gains, and Bismarck resigned at the insistence of Kaiser Wilhelm
II, who had risen to the throne in 1888. Bismarck spent his last years
gathering his memoirs (Gedanken und Erinnerungen; "Thoughts and Memories"),
and died at 83 years of age in 1898, in Friedrichsruh."
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck)

Mark

"Guys-N-Flyz" wrote


You stick with the status quo and I will fight for something better--who
knows, a politicall party might just come along .............


One thing that resulted from this election is that I too am tired of voting
for the least crappy one

I will not vote for a third party in any circumstance such as this year,
where the badder guy is so ****ing bad it makes ya puke, but I am going to
expend my "disposable political energy" on trying to get more people
interested in instant runoff elections

I think it is a system that most people can easily see the advantages of and
though it won't change any outcomes, at least directly and at first, it can
let each voter more accurately express his concerns and hopes via third
party canidates that would, therefore have more direct meaning than in the
sad and sick two party system. It's use is supported by the Green Party in
this country, but it is NOT a new idea. It was used in San Francisco this
election

http://www.instantrunoff.com/faq.asp