The other adult beverage.....

On Jan 11, 9:11*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ahhhh, horse puckies. *You don't know what you're talking about,
nitwit. * vbg

Oh yeah? Well I hear that McCain drinks instant coffee. So
there. :-)

Joe F.

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:20:28 -0800 (PST), rb608
wrote:

Oh yeah? Well I hear that McCain drinks instant coffee. So
there. :-)

Yeah, but what does McClain drink?

Wolfgang wrote:

Yeah, I've messed around with all sorts of brewing methods for a long long
time. The French Press method looked appealing, and I still know a lot of
people who prefer it, but it does nothing at all for me.....too much sort of
in between and undecided in terms of get the grounds out or leave them in.
Percolators are an abomination, no need to equivocate. My favorite is the
drip method.....through unbleached paper, thank you very much, none of the
reusable (reuseless, if you ask me) wire mesh crap. Second
best.....surprisingly.....is cowboy coffee, which pretty much rapes all the
conventional wisdom about brewing coffee.

Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies
like I had at my campsite?

Background: I ran across a cheap (~$20?) espresso maker from Ikea
which I thought might work for camping. It's a basic design; fill the
base with water to just below the vent, put your grounds in the little
metal filter cup that goes on top of the water chamber, screw on top and
place on fire/burner.

When the water starts to boil, the coffee is forced up through the
grounds and a nozzle in the top chamber. Remove from fire when all you
hear is a hissing sound and no more coffee is coming from the nozzle.

It makes a pretty good cup of coffee, and is fast.

Now if Wolfgang can just forgive me for using Starbucks (aka,
"Charbucks") in the thing. :-}


Chuck Vance (who admits to knowing next to nothing at all about
coffee, except it goes nicely with a cig when sitting by the Little
River on a cool morning)

On Jan 11, 9:23*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Yeah, but what does McClain drink?

Cappuccino, but I'm not going to get whipped into a froth over it. /
rimshot

Joe F.

wrote in message
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103 posts on coffee snobbery!

Really? Could you direct us to it?

(no I didn't read hardly any!)

No ****.

Our civilization has definitely peaked. Downhill from here...

We've been writing about the effects of illiteracy for a long long time.
You should have re.......um......never mind.

Wolfgang

In article , Conan The Librarian
wrote:


Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies
like I had at my campsite?

Background: I ran across a cheap (~$20?) espresso maker from Ikea
which I thought might work for camping. It's a basic design; fill the
base with water to just below the vent, put your grounds in the little
metal filter cup that goes on top of the water chamber, screw on top and
place on fire/burner.

When the water starts to boil, the coffee is forced up through the
grounds and a nozzle in the top chamber. Remove from fire when all you
hear is a hissing sound and no more coffee is coming from the nozzle.

It makes a pretty good cup of coffee, and is fast.

Now if Wolfgang can just forgive me for using Starbucks (aka,
"Charbucks") in the thing. :-}


Chuck Vance (who admits to knowing next to nothing at all about
coffee, except it goes nicely with a cig when sitting by the Little
River on a cool morning)


Hi Conan.

Yours is in fact the MOST IMPORTANT post
on this VERY IMPORTANT thread.

the point is that the machine that you have described, easy to use
anywhere, is, in fact what I have referred to as a 'Moka machine'.

It is cheap, and universally used at home by every Italian I have ever
met, from Count to peasant, and I think both I and steve (who knows
far more than I do) believe that Italians are quite smart on
coffee-making.

All you have to do is to put decent coffee into the bowl, obey the
instructions, and you have an excellent cup of coffee.

It's a bit......... like fishing...............


take a bit of hare's ear

tie it onto a small hook (you don't need to do this very well)

cast it so that it lands delicately in front of., and floats down
towards without drag, a hungry trout (this you DO need to do well)

and you have yourself a great fish.

No snobbery in either. Just a matter of judgment about what matters and
what doesn't.

for which experience helps.

Lazarus

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies like
I had at my campsite?

Background: I ran across a cheap (~$20?) espresso maker from Ikea which
I thought might work for camping. It's a basic design; fill the base with
water to just below the vent, put your grounds in the little metal filter
cup that goes on top of the water chamber, screw on top and place on
fire/burner.

When the water starts to boil, the coffee is forced up through the
grounds and a nozzle in the top chamber. Remove from fire when all you
hear is a hissing sound and no more coffee is coming from the nozzle.

It makes a pretty good cup of coffee, and is fast.

Nah, I haven't gotten one. Espresso is something I like every once in a
great while.....not enough to justify buying apparatus for making it. I've
found that mooching off of fishing companions suits my needs perfectly.


Now if Wolfgang can just forgive me for using Starbucks (aka,
"Charbucks") in the thing. :-}

The one nice thing about Starbucks is that you can use any of their beans to
make espresso. No, it won't be good, but none of it will be worse than any
other.

Chuck Vance (who admits to knowing next to nothing at all about
coffee, except it goes nicely with a cig when sitting by the Little River
on a cool morning)

Yeah, that was good.

Wolfgang

On Jan 11, 9:10*am, Conan The Librarian wrote:
wrote:
Even a stove-top "machine" (Bialetti Moka Express style) like I use?
According to the wikipedia article on the method (I know, I know...
man I hope Chuck doesn't see this post... :-)

* * Wikipedia? *Wikifreakingpedia?!! *And you call yourself a
librarian?!!!

* * :-)

We actually have a handful of books here on the topic, but at levels
that even this "Steve" fellow would probably blanche at!

Hey, you and I made some shelves together the other day. I'm doing
some custom cabinetry for a little remodeling I'm doing in my
kitchen. Did a pull out pantry unit in oak and fired up that SWEET
3/4 dado plane you sent me. That thing is THE BOMB! Best part is, I
can think "hey, this is the one I got from Chuck..." as I'm cranking
out the cross-grain curlies.

Hope all is well down south,
B

On Jan 11, 9:27*am, Conan The Librarian wrote:

* * Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies
like I had at my campsite?

Not only do they make a good cuppa fairly quickly but they are also
pretty light in weight- the cast aluminum ones anyhow. I've got a
medium sized one that lives in my car-camping equipment box, but it's
been known to sneak its way into my backpack for away-from-the-car
trips as well. The small amount of extra weight is worth it! (For
me, that is. Tom N's packing list impresses me, but I need at least a
FEW niceties on the trail!)


B

On Jan 10, 1:58 pm, Steve wrote:
So this phrase is incorrect?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moka_Ex...s._drip_coffee

If you mean Wikipedia's claim that "Due to the higher pressures
involved, the mixture of water and steam reaches temperatures well
above 100 °C" then yes, that claim is incorrect.

I know nothing about espresso and other high-falutin' coffee machines,
but I do remember something from chemistry class -- if they really
operate at higher than atmospheric pressure, then the claim is
absolutely correct. Higher pressure corresponds to higher boiling
point. If the machine brings the water to boil under higher pressure,
then higher temps are being used.

Jon.
Doing my part to drag civilization down :-)