OT .. Thanks Forty & Frank ...

I bought RosettaStone Spanish ( Latin America) based largely on your
suggestions. I have a lifelong history of being terrible at learning
languges, and was very concerned parting with so much money when I'm such a
dolt.

I'm several lessons into the program ... and there is no certainty of my
success,
BUT,
this is the most powerful approach to learning language I've ever seen. I'm
progressing and having fun doing so.

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:49:07 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

I'm several lessons into the program ... and there is no certainty of my
success,
BUT,
this is the most powerful approach to learning language I've ever seen. I'm
progressing and having fun doing so.

I'd appreciate it if you kept me posted on your progress. I deal with
Spanish speaking folks two days a week, and although most of them
speak English, it would be nice to communicate in their language.

Dave

On Apr 17, 12:18*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:49:07 GMT, "Larry L"

wrote:
I'm several lessons into the program ... and there is no certainty of my
success,
BUT,
this is the most powerful approach to learning language I've ever seen. *I'm
progressing and having fun doing so.

I'd appreciate it if you kept me posted on your progress. *I deal with
Spanish speaking folks two days a week, and although most of them
speak English, it would be nice to communicate in their language.

Dave

I think some of the best learning language stuff was developed in the
1950's and '60s, but lost out to some of the bizarre notions of the
American Language Association, which lives for perpetuating the self-
defeating folk belief that a nation of immigrants is inherently bad at
languages. Anyway that's my 15 second summary of a favorite rant of
mine.

Without a doubt, the single best book for learning Spanish I have
found in 45 years of "learning" Spanish, is still in print after being
written 56 years ago . . .

Margarita Madrigal's, "Madrigal's Magic Key to Spanish," Broadway
Books/New York, 26th paperback printing in 2001, with (Get This)
"original illustrations by Andy Warhol."

You will learn more in the first hundred pages that most learn in
years. Madrigal gives you an instant vocabulary by showing how more
than half of English is readily usable as Spanish via slight
modification of cogantes and near-cognates, thanks to the Norman
Conquest. So that gives you a heap of adjectives, adverbs, and nouns.

Then she gives you a mnemonic key to verb conjugation. That deal with
verb endings denoting person(s), and tense is hard for folk starting
with English. Anyway Madrigal is amazingly effective, And cheap ($13).

Dave

Larry

Keep studying
When you go there and speak it you will still make errors but people will be
much more frendly if you make the effort to speak thieir language in their
country
When I go to a Spanish speaking country ojn business I can make my
presentation about our products in Spanish-
after that for all I know they are saying to throw the bum oput as they
speak too fast to understand their reaction .but as I am usually succesful I
know that they appreciate the attempt to speak their language in their
country as many people living here should speak ourr languager in our
country

Good luck.
When you start to think in that language which you will, as you use, it
thats when you can truly speak it
Spaniish luckily is not that difficult esp when younger
For me - now - It would be mmuch more difficult

Fred

Fred

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:33:45 GMT, wrote:

Larry

Keep studying
When you go there and speak it you will still make errors but people will be
much more frendly if you make the effort to speak thieir language in their
country
When I go to a Spanish speaking country ojn business I can make my
presentation about our products in Spanish-

Ooh! Ooh! Do it here! Do it here!

after that for all I know they are saying to throw the bum oput as they
speak too fast to understand their reaction .

Um, really? I mean, how fast can anyone say "que la chinga?"...(yeah,
yeah, yeah, Chuck...it's just a joke, not a Spanish class...)

but as I am usually succesful I
know that they appreciate the attempt to speak their language in their
country as many people living here should speak ourr languager in our
country

Ever tried any half-assed US high school French in, oh, say, France...?

Good luck.
When you start to think in that language which you will, as you use, it
thats when you can truly speak it
Spaniish luckily is not that difficult esp when younger

Howsabout English?

For me - now - It would be mmuch more difficult

Oh, nonsense - I have faith in ya, boy - you could mangle the begeebers
out of any language you attempted, and at any age...

Fred

Fred

Is that "Fred" in Spanish?
R

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:33:45 GMT, wrote:

Larry

Keep studying
When you go there and speak it you will still make errors but people will
be
much more frendly if you make the effort to speak thieir language in their
country
When I go to a Spanish speaking country ojn business I can make my
presentation about our products in Spanish-

Ooh! Ooh! Do it here! Do it here!

after that for all I know they are saying to throw the bum oput as they
speak too fast to understand their reaction .

Um, really? I mean, how fast can anyone say "que la chinga?"...(yeah,
yeah, yeah, Chuck...it's just a joke, not a Spanish class...)

but as I am usually succesful I
know that they appreciate the attempt to speak their language in their
country as many people living here should speak ourr languager in our
country

Ever tried any half-assed US high school French in, oh, say, France...?

Good luck.
When you start to think in that language which you will, as you use, it
thats when you can truly speak it
Spaniish luckily is not that difficult esp when younger

Howsabout English?

For me - now - It would be mmuch more difficult

Oh, nonsense - I have faith in ya, boy - you could mangle the begeebers
out of any language you attempted, and at any age...

Fred

Fred

Is that "Fred" in Spanish?

Hey! There you are! Weren't we having a nice little discussion? Where'd
you go?

Wolfgang

On 17-Apr-2008, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Larry

Keep studying
When you go there and speak it you will still make errors but people
will
be
much more frendly if you make the effort to speak thieir language in
their
country
When I go to a Spanish speaking country ojn business I can make my
presentation about our products in Spanish-

Ooh! Ooh! Do it here! Do it here!

after that for all I know they are saying to throw the bum oput as they
speak too fast to understand their reaction .

Um, really? I mean, how fast can anyone say "que la chinga?"...(yeah,
yeah, yeah, Chuck...it's just a joke, not a Spanish class...)

but as I am usually succesful I
know that they appreciate the attempt to speak their language in their
country as many people living here should speak ourr languager in our
country

Ever tried any half-assed US high school French in, oh, say, France...?


If this is all that you have to do with your time you are a pitiful little
mab and a fool
but we already knew that!
So nothing new for you

Fred

Larry L wrote:
I bought RosettaStone Spanish ( Latin America) based largely on your
suggestions. I have a lifelong history of being terrible at learning
languges, and was very concerned parting with so much money when I'm such a
dolt.

I'm several lessons into the program ... and there is no certainty of my
success,
BUT,
this is the most powerful approach to learning language I've ever seen. I'm
progressing and having fun doing so.

Glad to hear it, Larry. I wish you continued success with your
language learning.

Perhaps you can return the favor and recommend a book or books
on dog training. I'm going to get my first ever pure bred dog
in a few weeks and I'm going to train her myself. I've never
had any dog that wasn't a shelter mutt and I loved them dearly
but this time I went with a Labrador Retriever with a pedigree.

I'm getting my dog from these folks:

http://www.britishlabradors.com/

And the training program they have is this one:

http://www.britishretrievertraining.com/index.html

I like it because they stress not using e-collars, which is
something I won't do. (I'm sure e-collars are fine in the
right hands, but my hands are far too inexperienced.)

Any advice or pointers appreciated.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:04:40 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Larry L wrote:
I bought RosettaStone Spanish ( Latin America) based largely on your
suggestions. I have a lifelong history of being terrible at learning
languges, and was very concerned parting with so much money when I'm such a
dolt.

I'm several lessons into the program ... and there is no certainty of my
success,
BUT,
this is the most powerful approach to learning language I've ever seen. I'm
progressing and having fun doing so.

Glad to hear it, Larry. I wish you continued success with your
language learning.

Perhaps you can return the favor and recommend a book or books
on dog training. I'm going to get my first ever pure bred dog
in a few weeks and I'm going to train her myself. I've never
had any dog that wasn't a shelter mutt and I loved them dearly
but this time I went with a Labrador Retriever with a pedigree.

Elitist.

I'm getting my dog from these folks:

http://www.britishlabradors.com/

Why do you hate America?

And the training program they have is this one:

http://www.britishretrievertraining.com/index.html

I like it because they stress not using e-collars, which is
something I won't do. (I'm sure e-collars are fine in the
right hands, but my hands are far too inexperienced.)

Any advice or pointers appreciated.

Pointer_S_? Lemme guess - French ones...greedy elitist...

TC,
R

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
... I'm going to get my first ever pure bred dog
in a few weeks and I'm going to train her myself. I've never
had any dog that wasn't a shelter mutt and I loved them dearly
but this time I went with a Labrador Retriever with a pedigree.

Elitist.

Yeah, I'm feeling a little bit of liberal white guilt. ;-)

It's hard to adopt a puppy from our local shelter. The puppies
are adopted so quickly you have to visit the shelter two or
three times a week to be sure you're one of the first to see
them. If you do happen to go to the shelter on the day the
puppies arrive you're only going to get a half hour or so in
a socializing room to make a decision you have to live with
for 11-12 years. We were lucky with Kipper the Hound but this
time around I wanted the predictability of a pedigree.

--
Ken Fortenberry