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The Sandy Juan Worm -- what is the difference?
Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference,
between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? The context appears below the photo: http://montana-riverboats.com/Pages/...rms/index.html |
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The Sandy Juan Worm -- what is the difference?
sandy wrote:
Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? The context appears below the photo: http://montana-riverboats.com/Pages/...rms/index.html Isn't the San Juan Worm tied with chenille ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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The Sandy Juan Worm -- what is the difference?
On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:11:25 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: sandy wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? The context appears below the photo: http://montana-riverboats.com/Pages/...rms/index.html Isn't the San Juan Worm tied with chenille ? light dawns over Marble Head ;-) Yes, it is. And Sandy is asking the philosophical question: is there really an ethical difference in simply buying plastic worms and tossing them with a fly rod, compared to using the classicly tied San Juan Worm - which most people still consider to be a "fly"... /daytripper (imo, one is borderline unethical, and the other is clearly unethical ;-) |
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The Sandy Juan Worm -- what is the difference?
daytripper wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: sandy wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? Isn't the San Juan Worm tied with chenille ? light dawns over Marble Head ;-) Yes, it is. And Sandy is asking the philosophical question: is there really an ethical difference in simply buying plastic worms and tossing them with a fly rod, compared to using the classicly tied San Juan Worm - which most people still consider to be a "fly"... /daytripper (imo, one is borderline unethical, and the other is clearly unethical ;-) Oh, now I get it. Sandy is administering a philosophy test, in other words his post is a troll. I don't use "classic" San Juan Worms and I sure as hell don't toss plastic worms with a fly rod and I wouldn't call either one fly fishing. Did I pass the philosophy test ? ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry |
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The Sandy Juan Worm -- what is the difference?
On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:21:35 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: daytripper wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: sandy wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? Isn't the San Juan Worm tied with chenille ? light dawns over Marble Head ;-) Yes, it is. And Sandy is asking the philosophical question: is there really an ethical difference in simply buying plastic worms and tossing them with a fly rod, compared to using the classicly tied San Juan Worm - which most people still consider to be a "fly"... /daytripper (imo, one is borderline unethical, and the other is clearly unethical ;-) Oh, now I get it. Sandy is administering a philosophy test, in other words his post is a troll. I don't use "classic" San Juan Worms and I sure as hell don't toss plastic worms with a fly rod and I wouldn't call either one fly fishing. Did I pass the philosophy test ? ;-) lol That'll do, Ken. That'll do. /daytripper ;-) |
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The Sandy Juan Worm -- what is the difference?
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I don't use "classic" San Juan Worms and I sure as hell don't toss plastic worms with a fly rod and I wouldn't call either one fly fishing. .....so you're a purist (a fly fishing fundamentalist?). No problem. Really. No problem at all. Everybody fishes the way they want. I was just hoping to hear an articulate explanation. I realize plastic worms are despicable in some eyes. I just don't know why. And the more I try to figure out why, the less sense it makes. I *still* have not heard, in a sentance that makes sense, why the plastic worm is despicable, why the San Juan Worm is not quite as bad, etc. Say something logical and convincing, if you can. |
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The Sandy Juan Worm -- what is the difference?
sandy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: I don't use "classic" San Juan Worms and I sure as hell don't toss plastic worms with a fly rod and I wouldn't call either one fly fishing. ....so you're a purist (a fly fishing fundamentalist?). No problem. Really. No problem at all. Everybody fishes the way they want. I was just hoping to hear an articulate explanation. I realize plastic worms are despicable in some eyes. I just don't know why. And the more I try to figure out why, the less sense it makes. I *still* have not heard, in a sentance that makes sense, why the plastic worm is despicable, why the San Juan Worm is not quite as bad, etc. Say something logical and convincing, if you can. I didn't say a plastic worm was despicable I said it wasn't a fly and one fly fishes with a fly. You can fish with whatever legal device you want, but for me it isn't fly fishing unless you're fishing with a fly. And no, the "classic" San Juan Worm is *not* a fly either. It all seems logical to me but I doubt you're convinced. ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry |
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The Sandy Juan Worm -- what is the difference?
On Sun, 20 May 2007 07:27:07 -0600, sandy
wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? I don't believe your Sandy Worm is a fly. However, wrap a little hackle around it, and perhaps some herl and, voila, it's a fly. Go figure. |
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The Sandy Juan Worm -- what is the difference?
"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 May 2007 07:27:07 -0600, sandy wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? I don't believe your Sandy Worm is a fly. However, wrap a little hackle around it, and perhaps some herl and, voila, it's a fly. Go figure. A fly is a type of insect, titting up a piece of plastic with a feather makes it a piece of feathered plastic. Any of that crap you fly fishers (me inc) call flies are not flies at all, we have all been conned. |
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The Sandy Juan Worm -- what is the difference?
Niteawk wrote:
"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 May 2007 07:27:07 -0600, sandy wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? I don't believe your Sandy Worm is a fly. However, wrap a little hackle around it, and perhaps some herl and, voila, it's a fly. Go figure. A fly is a type of insect, titting up a piece of plastic with a feather makes it a piece of feathered plastic. Any of that crap you fly fishers (me inc) call flies are not flies at all, we have all been conned. Cutting through the crap, the ultimate object of the exercise is to catch fish. Anglers can put whatever restrictions and handicaps on themselves that they feel fit -- dry flies only, no indicators, whatever floats your boat. It's just a personal choice. Whatever makes you happy. At times I've come up empty using flies and resorted to bait. When it worked I felt great. When it didn't I felt like a fool. One of the best fish I've ever caught was a big tarpon, using a fly rod with a "Gummy Minnow." It was hardly a "fly" in any traditional sense, but that didn't detract from the experience one whit. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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